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05/21/2006 01:22:01 PM · #801
OK Guys - I'm now ready to start to attempt to get into the Alamy world. Now I have the 5D I should easily make the technical quality criteria.

My question is about the micro-stock accounts I have. I will be closing them down as each one pays out, but do Alamy refuse membership if I have EVER contributed to the MS sites?
05/21/2006 01:24:30 PM · #802
Originally posted by Falc:

OK Guys - I'm now ready to start to attempt to get into the Alamy world. Now I have the 5D I should easily make the technical quality criteria.

My question is about the micro-stock accounts I have. I will be closing them down as each one pays out, but do Alamy refuse membership if I have EVER contributed to the MS sites?

Alamy does not restrict you from microstock participation -- just don't post the same images there. Alamy -- at least the last time I looked -- was non-exclusive.
05/21/2006 02:39:59 PM · #803
that is right.

you can submit to both alamy and the micros at the same time, additionally it is wise to do so. Just don't post the same images at both places.
05/22/2006 02:08:18 PM · #804
WOOOOoooooOOO HOOOOooooOOO!!!!!!! I just got this!!!

Dear Contributor,

We are working on a new, easier and faster way for you to send
us your images. When AlamyUpload launches later this year, you
will simply upload your images online at Alamy and see instantly
if they have been received. You will no longer have to burn and
post discs, so it will save you time, money and the uncertainty
of the world's postal service.

AlamyUpload is still under development, but we will keep you informed
about progress and give you more details as the work nears
completion.

In preparation for AlamyUpload, we ask that you now:

. Send images as JPEGs instead of Tiffs;
. Save JPEGs at the highest quality setting and at 48MB in size
once uncompressed (all other quality control requirements remain the
same).

When AlamyUpload launches we will phase out our existing submission
process and will not accept discs in the future. We appreciate that
this will involve changes to your workflow so we wanted to give you
plenty of notice to prepare for the change.

Best regards

The Content Team
Alamy


I am so excited!!! This will be so much easier!
05/22/2006 02:13:31 PM · #805
Wow, that makes Alamy sound a lot more appealing to someone like me who still has Christmas presents packaged and ready to be mailed.
05/22/2006 02:14:33 PM · #806
Sweet! :)
05/22/2006 02:32:44 PM · #807
Originally posted by mk:

Wow, that makes Alamy sound a lot more appealing to someone like me who still has Christmas presents packaged and ready to be mailed.

It's OK, they'll get there in plenty of time (for next Christmas).

I'm curious to see how long the uploads take -- I'd think those files would be 2-6MB each. For someone submitting their first batch for QC check it could take a long time.
05/22/2006 02:39:16 PM · #808
Originally posted by GeneralE:

I'm curious to see how long the uploads take -- I'd think those files would be 2-6MB each. For someone submitting their first batch for QC check it could take a long time.


I thought about that too... I have a folder with about 300 images in it waiting to be upsized and burned on CD. Think I'll hurry up and do that before I'm forced to upload all 300. After that a few at a time shouldn't be an issue (let it run overnight or whatever).
05/22/2006 02:56:09 PM · #809
I just ran a quick test to see file sizes. Took a 49MB TIF file (at 8 bit) and saved as JPG. The JPG file was around 10MB.

I am SO glad I finally have DSL. By doing this Alamy is pretty much excluding anyone with dial-up internet access.
05/22/2006 03:15:24 PM · #810
I'm a little confused about the file size- anyone who understands care to elaborate?
05/22/2006 03:35:57 PM · #811
Originally posted by oOWonderBreadOo:

I'm a little confused about the file size- anyone who understands care to elaborate?

The uncompressed file size has to be 48MB -- that ends up being about 5000 x 3400 pixels. Basically it is W x H x (3 bytes/pixel) = file size (in regular 8-bit RGB).

How much room it takes to save on disk after compression varies tremendously.

Message edited by author 2006-05-22 15:36:33.
05/22/2006 03:38:35 PM · #812
Originally posted by glad2badad:

I just ran a quick test to see file sizes. Took a 49MB TIF file (at 8 bit) and saved as JPG. The JPG file was around 10MB.

I am SO glad I finally have DSL. By doing this Alamy is pretty much excluding anyone with dial-up internet access.


what about this? shouldn't the file size be 48 MB still? or will I have to go and upsize as JPEG now?
05/22/2006 03:42:27 PM · #813
No -- as I said, the uncompressed file size -- what you'll see in Photoshop if you go to the Image Size dialog or in the lower left margin of the window -- has to be 48MB.

The whole point of using compression is to take that amount of image data and store it in a compressed (and uncompressable) form which takes up fewer bytes, so it takes less room to store or time to transmit.
05/22/2006 03:44:04 PM · #814
Thanks!!!
05/22/2006 03:45:52 PM · #815
I find it slightly odd that they're shifting from TIFF to JPEG - ok, so at max quality there shouldn't be much data loss, but then the size difference between a max quality JPEG and a TIFF with LZW isn't exactly massive either.
05/22/2006 03:49:12 PM · #816
Originally posted by glad2badad:

I just ran a quick test to see file sizes. Took a 49MB TIF file (at 8 bit) and saved as JPG. The JPG file was around 10MB.

I am SO glad I finally have DSL. By doing this Alamy is pretty much excluding anyone with dial-up internet access.

Download and Upload manager technology, that allows for resuming after disconnect, has been around a long time. Sure a company as large as Alamy will incorporate it into the process. An upload manager that runs in the background at low priority would not inconvienance anyone and would still be faster than their current method -- even on dial-up.

/edit: to add that this change will likely have the most impact on those parts of the world that have pay-per-use internet access. The cost of uploading the files will cut into their profits.

David

Message edited by author 2006-05-22 15:52:34.
05/22/2006 03:50:32 PM · #817
The current iteration of top-level JPEG compression is reputed to be lossless (i.e. PS CS2, level 12).

They may want to quit paying royalties on the LZW decompression algorithm.

They know that people are too dumb/careless to use TIFF properly, and it simplifies tech support to have only one file format.
05/26/2006 01:19:44 AM · #818
So, does this mean that I can take a tiff that I was going to submit and save it as a high quality JPG and submit that through the upload process?

Is this what they are saying?

Damian P. Gadal
05/26/2006 01:58:25 AM · #819
Yes, once they have the upload process up and running, that's what it means. Just like on the microstock sites ... : )
06/06/2006 08:23:37 PM · #820
Hi I'm back!

Alamy just approved my second QC batch today, I'm really happy.

I'm very happy about this upload/FTP thing also, I wish it could start right away but I guess it will be soon?

Thanks for everyone's advice

Roseha
06/06/2006 09:23:03 PM · #821
Originally posted by roseha:

Hi I'm back!

Alamy just approved my second QC batch today, I'm really happy.

Congratulations! Good to know the give people a legitimate second chance. I'm hoping my new camera is enough of an upgrade to try again soon.
06/07/2006 10:22:34 AM · #822
Thanks!

Has anyone tried this 48 meg Tiff to hi-res Jpeg thing yet? Is there any problem getting them accepted? I have made some and they go from about 50 megs to about 10 - 15 megs.

Thanks R
06/07/2006 10:40:54 AM · #823
Originally posted by GeneralE:

The current iteration of top-level JPEG compression is reputed to be lossless (i.e. PS CS2, level 12).

They may want to quit paying royalties on the LZW decompression algorithm.

They know that people are too dumb/careless to use TIFF properly, and it simplifies tech support to have only one file format.


I'm yet to submit in JPEG, but will be this week.

Other reasons for the move to JPEG are that they deliver to clients on JPEG anyway and it will allow for upload of submissions rather than via CD/DVD.

They were wary of JPEG in the past for similar reasons to the 'don't sharpen your images' scenario: People didn't know how do it properly and were adding un-saleable artefacts to their images.

06/08/2006 11:54:26 AM · #824
Hi All,

Does anyone know for sure if Alamy will be requiring JPEG for ALL submissions, or is it just the uploaded ones? (I tried to read through the thread to find this, could not. My apologies if it was discussed.)

The reason I ask is that I have a number of files that are about ready to get burned and sent, and if there is no need to convert them to JPEG, I won't. Besides, just to have HQ copies of the exact files I send, I will probably continue to keep my images in either TIFF or PSD format before converting to JPEG and submitting.

Also, I'm currently with Alamy, Acclaim, MyLoupe, and I even have a couple at PhotographersDirect. And I would like to know if anyone has sold anything at MyLoupe or PhotographersDirect -- Ever. I have had about 100 images with MyLoupe for 8 months or so, nothing. Not even a nibble. At least I had two proposed purchses for RM images at Acclaim -- but the sales fell through.

So, since I have had a couple of sales through Alamy, and since this is part-time gig for me anyway, I was considering pulling all other images at all other sites and doing them exlusively just for the ease and convenience. Besides, it seems no one sells anything at MyLoupe, or PD, and I have to wonder why I even bother keeping images there. Sure its not costing anything $ wise to let them sit, but it ain't helping either. And it takes a lot of time and effort to get stuff posted to these places on the front end, even if the images are largely prepared already.

Anyway, just some random thoughts and questions for those doing stock.

Regards,

-Michael
06/08/2006 11:58:34 AM · #825
The plan is to bin the postal submission pretty soon, I believe. For now, though, it's still OK to send in your CD/DVD

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