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05/09/2006 05:28:00 PM · #1
Change the way you voted on one or more entries in any challenge?

Since the outtake discussion thread is for members only, I wanted to give all participants a chance to answer this question. I do not want replies of how your score went up or down, and you feel it was because of outtakes. I wnat to know that you saw an outtake and either went back and changed some/all of your votes or decided before voting that you would vote higher/lower on certain kinds of shots.
05/09/2006 05:28:48 PM · #2
No
05/09/2006 05:34:54 PM · #3
Originally posted by chaimelle:

Change the way you voted on one or more entries in any challenge?

Personally, I wouldn't expect anyone to post an honest answer (here) if it did.
05/09/2006 05:41:36 PM · #4
Never once has an outtake thread swayed my voting.

But, I also agree with GneralE that you probaly won't get honest answers if it did.

It would make a nice poll though.
05/09/2006 05:48:15 PM · #5
In all honesty, not for me, but i tend to be a one pass voter with a review of the top and bottom of my curve. To much trouble to see an outtake, go find the challenge picture, adjust my vote, etc, etc.

Doesn't the phrase "In all honesty..." put you the alert for a lie??? :)

I make an exception for cheese outtakes. Those i hunt down and troll vote furoiusly!
05/09/2006 05:55:49 PM · #6
Originally posted by mpeters:


I make an exception for cheese outtakes. Those i hunt down and troll vote furoiusly!


Cheesie hater! :-P
05/09/2006 05:56:33 PM · #7
Yes.

But then, I change my vote if I get gas and am grumpy for an hour.

Of course.. I'd actually have to vote...
05/09/2006 05:58:16 PM · #8
Good question!

An outtake thread has never influenced my voting.

What disappoints me about the outtake threads is the unanswerable question: "How would this have done?" but that's because I think if you want to know what your score would have been in a challenge, you should have entered it!

05/09/2006 05:58:46 PM · #9
Sub-consciously Yes
05/09/2006 05:59:39 PM · #10
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by mpeters:


I make an exception for cheese outtakes. Those i hunt down and troll vote furoiusly!


Cheesie hater! :-P


Guilty as charged!
05/09/2006 05:59:45 PM · #11
Originally posted by chaimelle:

Change the way you voted on one or more entries in any challenge?

Since the outtake discussion thread is for members only, I wanted to give all participants a chance to answer this question. I do not want replies of how your score went up or down, and you feel it was because of outtakes. I wnat to know that you saw an outtake and either went back and changed some/all of your votes or decided before voting that you would vote higher/lower on certain kinds of shots.


Even if people think they're answering honestly in saying "No", the fact is that we don't know how these things affect us. My feeling, after deliberation, whether or not posting outtakes is wrong or irrelevant, is that if you saw it, it affects the way you vote, however subconscious and however minute that effect might be.

Edited for clarity.

Message edited by author 2006-05-09 18:00:19.
05/09/2006 06:00:23 PM · #12
Most likely if an outtake thread did influence your voting you wouldn't notice... Ditto with the anal discussions about what will meet the challenge during the submission period...
05/09/2006 06:02:45 PM · #13
Originally posted by TooCool:

Ditto with the anal discussions about what will meet the challenge during the submission period...


Those are perhaps more influential than any outtake thread. Especially to those that don't do thier own research.
05/09/2006 06:03:09 PM · #14
Early on, all the time.
Later, not as much.
But, yes, they definitely have.
Can I provide "evidence" other than my word? No.
Am I weak-minded? Not at all.
Why do I avoid outtake threads? Because, to me, they are cloying pleas for guesses as to how to be a ribboner and not how to be a photographer.
05/09/2006 06:05:28 PM · #15
My vote is affected by a million things, including but not limited to: nearly all the threads I've read at DPC at any time, all the challenge entries I've seen previously and most definitely the ones in a challenge with the same topic, my personal tastes, threads I've read on other photography sites, any magazines I may have read, new photography/editing tricks I may have learned about, how much I happen to like or dislike the topic at hand, what the stock market looks like, etc.

People are acting like votes are calibrated to precision and then suddenly knocked wildly out of balance when they see one type of thread at a specific time. It's just not true.

05/09/2006 06:07:20 PM · #16
Originally posted by mk:

My vote is affected by a million things, including but not limited to: nearly all the threads I've read at DPC at any time, all the challenge entries I've seen previously and most definitely the ones in a challenge with the same topic, my personal tastes, threads I've read on other photography sites, any magazines I may have read, new photography/editing tricks I may have learned about, how much I happen to like or dislike the topic at hand, what the stock market looks like, etc.

People are acting like votes are calibrated to precision and then suddenly knocked wildly out of balance when they see one type of thread at a specific time. It's just not true.


Why is this discussion only about votes?
05/09/2006 06:08:33 PM · #17
Originally posted by KaDi:

Originally posted by mk:

My vote is affected by a million things, including but not limited to: nearly all the threads I've read at DPC at any time, all the challenge entries I've seen previously and most definitely the ones in a challenge with the same topic, my personal tastes, threads I've read on other photography sites, any magazines I may have read, new photography/editing tricks I may have learned about, how much I happen to like or dislike the topic at hand, what the stock market looks like, etc.

People are acting like votes are calibrated to precision and then suddenly knocked wildly out of balance when they see one type of thread at a specific time. It's just not true.


Why is this discussion only about votes?


Uh...because the OP asked about how we vote?
05/09/2006 06:34:39 PM · #18
Originally posted by mk:

My vote is affected by a million things, including but not limited to: nearly all the threads I've read at DPC at any time, all the challenge entries I've seen previously and most definitely the ones in a challenge with the same topic, my personal tastes, threads I've read on other photography sites, any magazines I may have read, new photography/editing tricks I may have learned about, how much I happen to like or dislike the topic at hand, what the stock market looks like, etc.

People are acting like votes are calibrated to precision and then suddenly knocked wildly out of balance when they see one type of thread at a specific time. It's just not true.


It couldn't be stated more clearly than mk's post. Some additional factors affecting my vote: time of day, did i eat breakfast/lunch/dinner?, lack of sleep, length of hair, etc., etc.
05/09/2006 06:38:06 PM · #19
Originally posted by chaimelle:

Change the way you voted on one or more entries in any challenge?

Since the outtake discussion thread is for members only, I wanted to give all participants a chance to answer this question. I do not want replies of how your score went up or down, and you feel it was because of outtakes. I wnat to know that you saw an outtake and either went back and changed some/all of your votes or decided before voting that you would vote higher/lower on certain kinds of shots.


To answer the original question.

NO an outtake thread has never made me feel the need to go back and change my vote or caused me to vote differently.
05/09/2006 06:42:39 PM · #20
Not even subconsciously? How can you be sure? Even if you make some effort to deliberately ignore the potential effect of outtake threads, it affects how you vote because you're thinking about not letting it affect you. I don't buy it from anyone who says flat out absolutely no.

Originally posted by rex:

Originally posted by chaimelle:

Change the way you voted on one or more entries in any challenge?

Since the outtake discussion thread is for members only, I wanted to give all participants a chance to answer this question. I do not want replies of how your score went up or down, and you feel it was because of outtakes. I wnat to know that you saw an outtake and either went back and changed some/all of your votes or decided before voting that you would vote higher/lower on certain kinds of shots.


To answer the original question.

NO an outtake thread has never made me feel the need to go back and change my vote or caused me to vote differently.

05/09/2006 06:46:13 PM · #21
Originally posted by karmabreeze:

I don't buy it from anyone who says flat out absolutely no.



Well buy it, because it doesn't affect me. I always vote as soon as possible on a challenge. Ussally before I read ANY threads. And I never .........I repeat NEVER go back and change my vote. I don't like it when people tell me what I think.
05/09/2006 06:47:58 PM · #22
Believe it when I say it!

All I have in this life is my word!

Message edited by author 2006-05-09 18:49:22.
05/09/2006 06:49:43 PM · #23
Originally posted by karmabreeze:

Not even subconsciously? How can you be sure? Even if you make some effort to deliberately ignore the potential effect of outtake threads, it affects how you vote because you're thinking about not letting it affect you. I don't buy it from anyone who says flat out absolutely no.


Is that an absolute no on that?
05/09/2006 06:53:19 PM · #24
Discussing outtakes in challenges is making me a moody voter... so nah!

Say no to rule #2 or 1's for all. :-P
05/09/2006 06:54:00 PM · #25
Like, I absolutely will NOT buy it that anyone would NOT buy my opinion like, 100% and absolutely.

ed - typos, as usual

Message edited by author 2006-05-09 18:54:47.
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