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05/04/2006 12:26:08 AM · #1 |
| Will this Red Filter produce the same results with digital as it does with film? Is this a good filter of this type to purchase? |
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05/04/2006 12:39:24 AM · #2 |
| yes but, yes but make sure you need 77mm before you get the 77mm... |
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05/04/2006 12:41:57 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by nemesise1977:
yes but, yes but make sure you need 77mm before you get the 77mm... |
I don't now... but I will in 2 days: //www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=386982
It will all be here by friday evening!
*anxious*
Message edited by author 2006-05-04 00:42:43. |
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05/04/2006 12:45:27 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by nemesise1977:
yes but, yes but make sure you need 77mm before you get the 77mm... |
hmmm... now that you mention it, maybe it'd be better to get it for my 50mm 1.4 instead of the 70-200. poop. what to do..... |
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05/04/2006 12:48:03 AM · #5 |
Don't waste your money on a red filter for a digital camera. Those are designed for use with black and white film. You will not get pleasing results. I have tried it already :)
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05/04/2006 12:51:14 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Don't waste your money on a red filter for a digital camera. Those are designed for use with black and white film. You will not get pleasing results. I have tried it already :) |
even after converting to black and white?
maybe i'll ditch that from my shopping cart and pick up another nd filter.
as of now i have the
Canon TC-80N3 Remote
77mm B+W Circ. Polarizer with MR coating
77mm B+W .9 ND
and that 77mm Red filter
Is the .9 a good/versitile one? it's double the price of the .6 |
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05/04/2006 12:53:59 AM · #7 |
You will get a better red filter effect using the channel mixer in photoshop. Digital cameras don't shoot black and white like film. When you put a red filter on a color image, the results are entirely different. Digital cameras that do b/w don't do it like film either.. .they simply desaturate the color internally... the results are still bad.
I don't know anything about BW filters... I use Hoya.
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05/04/2006 12:54:07 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Little King:
Originally posted by nemesise1977:
yes but, yes but make sure you need 77mm before you get the 77mm... |
hmmm... now that you mention it, maybe it'd be better to get it for my 50mm 1.4 instead of the 70-200. poop. what to do..... |
Get the larger size and buy a step-up ring for your 50mm
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05/04/2006 12:56:38 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
You will get a better red filter effect using the channel mixer in photoshop. Digital cameras don't shoot black and white like film. When you put a red filter on a color image, the results are entirely different. Digital cameras that do b/w don't do it like film either.. .they simply desaturate the color internally... the results are still bad.
I don't know anything about BW filters... I use Hoya. |
thanks for the info setzler. You just saved me 80 bucks.
What about the ND's though? |
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05/04/2006 12:59:35 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by Little King:
What about the ND's though? |
I don't know about the BW nd filters and their ratings.. i'm assuming that the .9 is a 3 stop filter... u probably want to get a set of 3... a 1, 2, and 3 stop version so you can stack them to whatever combination you may need between 1 and 6 stops...
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05/04/2006 01:01:44 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by Little King:
What about the ND's though? |
I don't know about the BW nd filters and their ratings.. i'm assuming that the .9 is a 3 stop filter... u probably want to get a set of 3... a 1, 2, and 3 stop version so you can stack them to whatever combination you may need between 1 and 6 stops... |
whew... that will be pricey. Don't think I can afford to drop 200++ dollars on a full set after droping over 5k on monday.
... maybe after I make some money back....
thank you very much for the help though, I guess i'll stick with the remote and polarizer for now |
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05/04/2006 01:13:38 AM · #12 |
Good call on dropping the filter.
Incidentally, don't forget that a camera sensor essentially is already looking through a series of very small filters.
In fact, sensors are actually originally Black and White because they cannot see color. The method used to 'see' color is to use an exclusion filter on the individual pixel to get rid of all but Red or Green or Blue.
Remember that except for a few odd sensors out there (I think the Sony one has a different spread with an "emerald" pixel), sensors are also 50% green, 25% red and 25% blue.
What really throws a monkey wrench in the business is if the camera is also doing some WB correction. This isn't so bad in RAW naturally.
But the point is, when you stack filters, you can get some rather odd results.
Putting a red filter on a Digital camera affects the luminosity in the greens like stacking a red and green filter.
This CAN have useful effects, and indeed can work out, but it's probably not going to have the versatility provided by the normal in-camera stuff, or even better, Photoshop.
I'm personally waiting for the sky to become anything other than grey or white overcast so I can play with the yellow filter effect in-camera...
I bought a pair of yellow riding sunglasses the other day and found the effect to be really fun! |
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