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04/12/2006 01:44:29 PM · #76 |
Originally posted by naldslc:
Hey if I can get a candid here in good old Utah then you should have no problem in LA.
I just take their picture and if they say anything I just punch'em in the face!
Sorry heard the Jerky Boys this morning...must be rubbing off. ;-D
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LMAO!!!! I will take that under advisement for future Candids!
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04/12/2006 02:36:40 PM · #77 |
I had a comment that said something like..."looks candid but these could easily be family or friends"
So what???? My shot does contain family! However, they were 120 feet away and had no idea they were being photographed. Isn't that candid?
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04/12/2006 03:25:33 PM · #78 |
Originally posted by macpapas:
I think there is an "idea" that candids require you to be hiding on a street corner waiting to catch someone who looks different or has a sparkling personality - |
Just thought this statement bears repeating. So many people talking about the subject being "unaware" that they are being photographed when, perhaps, it is more appropriate to a candid that they be "unaffected" by the presence of the camera. |
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04/12/2006 03:41:03 PM · #79 |
Originally posted by kenskid:
I had a comment that said something like..."looks candid but these could easily be family or friends"
So what???? My shot does contain family! However, they were 120 feet away and had no idea they were being photographed. Isn't that candid? |
Ha, I received a somewhat similar comment indicating my candid looked too easy to take. Just fyi, I personally do not have a fear of taking candids (my portfolio is full of them), so who's to say what is "easy". I chose to enter a picture that I thought was emotive, conveyed a story, and was technically perfect (oh ya, and candid!) - I was hoping that was enough. :-)
[BTW, I add the smiley as I DO appreciate the comment and vote (though low) - at least the commenter stated their case and voted - I can totally respect that!!]
Message edited by author 2006-04-12 18:52:20. |
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04/12/2006 03:43:33 PM · #80 |
| At least you guys got comments. I've got none :( |
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04/12/2006 03:45:35 PM · #81 |
Candid III
Votes: 57
Views: 77
Avg Vote: 5.1579
Comments: 4
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 04/12/06 03:43 pm
Was definitely hoping for higher! I thought this one would be 6.0+ I have had comments saying it was a wonderful picture and others saying they don't "get it". Read the title! hahaha |
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04/12/2006 04:03:47 PM · #82 |
Votes: 51
Views: 76
Avg Vote: 6.1569
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Still holding on! |
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04/12/2006 04:16:01 PM · #83 |
Votes: 51
Views: 74
Avg Vote: 4.9020
Comments: 3
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 04/12/06 04:10 pm
This was a really last minute entry (not that I'm making excuses), but I still haven't been able to even get to a 6! I really thought my last entry (toy--even though it was a bit of a stretch, with just a little imagination...) was gonna make it--started with a 5.8 and within a few hours was up to 5.98. When I woke up the next morning 5.0. Sheesh! I guess the low voters wake up real early :)
Maybe the next challenge...or the one after that? |
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04/12/2006 05:35:06 PM · #84 |
To be honest, I don't think a majority of people are even aware of what "candid" is, or means.
It does not mean that a great candid shot is one where you primarily concentrate on the technicals of the shot. Composition, background elements, clarity, DOF, etc.. should always be a part of a great photograph, but when you're doing Candid photography, these become *SECONDARY*. You are trying to capture a moment. You are not trying to *create* a moment.
Does that difference make any sense to some of you out there? The best candids will be the lucky ones that get everything right without trying. But there are fantastic candids that constantly get barked on because.. OMG, a tree is in the wrong spot. So sorry, I'll remember to press the hold button on my TVR Life Remote next time and go chop down the tree.
It is *not* always better if the model is looking into the camera.
If you're going to pose people and pretend it's candid, at least try and do it in an environment that suggests that the action they are doing is something people would actually *do* there.
I could go on and on.
DPC seems to be a culture of "The Set-Up Shot" now. That's the way it is I guess, but come-on people. This is a Candid challenge, not a "Try and make it look candid, but remove natural elements" challenge.
Anyway, this will probably be ignored, so go back to happy voting, and the next time you see a funny, great candid that makes you smile or laugh and you're about to hit that 8 - 10 button but.. oh dear, there's a fence post there that distracts a tiny bit.. maybe you should just give that 8-10 anyway. For this challenge. |
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04/12/2006 05:42:23 PM · #85 |
Originally posted by Artyste:
Does that difference make any sense to some of you out there?
OMG, a tree is in the wrong spot. So sorry, I'll remember to press the hold button on my TVR Life Remote next time and go chop down the tree.
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Makes sense....
I have some trees and -shock- several promonent people in the edges and background - cluttered, cluttered, I should have held up a white sheet just behind the subject to clean it up (or at least a big monitor with a picture) :-)) |
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04/12/2006 05:53:17 PM · #86 |
Well put, Artyste.
I think some people are getting it. This afternoon I received either a 9/9 or 8/10 combo. It's not a great picture, but this makes me feel better about the 3 I received this morning. |
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04/12/2006 06:13:20 PM · #87 |
I have a candid shot in the challenge. One comment says something like ...good candid...but ...."the people in there could easily be family or friends"...based on that...the voter gave me a lower score!
The shot was VERY candid and it should not matter if it was friends or family...or am I wrong?
KS
Originally posted by Artyste:
To be honest, I don't think a majority of people are even aware of what "candid" is, or means.
It does not mean that a great candid shot is one where you primarily concentrate on the technicals of the shot. Composition, background elements, clarity, DOF, etc.. should always be a part of a great photograph, but when you're doing Candid photography, these become *SECONDARY*. You are trying to capture a moment. You are not trying to *create* a moment.
Does that difference make any sense to some of you out there? The best candids will be the lucky ones that get everything right without trying. But there are fantastic candids that constantly get barked on because.. OMG, a tree is in the wrong spot. So sorry, I'll remember to press the hold button on my TVR Life Remote next time and go chop down the tree.
It is *not* always better if the model is looking into the camera.
If you're going to pose people and pretend it's candid, at least try and do it in an environment that suggests that the action they are doing is something people would actually *do* there.
I could go on and on.
DPC seems to be a culture of "The Set-Up Shot" now. That's the way it is I guess, but come-on people. This is a Candid challenge, not a "Try and make it look candid, but remove natural elements" challenge.
Anyway, this will probably be ignored, so go back to happy voting, and the next time you see a funny, great candid that makes you smile or laugh and you're about to hit that 8 - 10 button but.. oh dear, there's a fence post there that distracts a tiny bit.. maybe you should just give that 8-10 anyway. For this challenge. |
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04/12/2006 06:18:05 PM · #88 |
Artyste, I know what you mean about the setup shot. Some might actually do better in the Color Portrait Challenge since they are so removed from the candid look.
However, like with every other challenge it's a beauty contest regardless of what the challenge theme is. If you aren't submitting happy, pretty images you're putting yourself at a disadvantage. If it doesn't have the eye candy the voters just aren't going to stick around long enough to see the actual beauty you did capture. That's probably what's happening with mine. I submitted something very anti-DPC although I did try to dress it up a bit in PS. What I found interesting about my shot was not just the subjects in it but the entire candid scene I captured but voters are either not sticking around long enough to see it or just aren't getting it period.
Message edited by author 2006-04-12 18:19:35.
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04/12/2006 06:21:47 PM · #89 |
I got a comment about a (out-of-focus) person in the background being distracting. I guess I should've thrown something at them to get them to move first, huh? :)
I'll have to make a note to remember that next time.
**writing note: no distracting elements in candid...try to include a sunset next time** |
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04/12/2006 06:23:37 PM · #90 |
Arty, you're so right on the $$$.
Votes: 75
Views: 100
Avg Vote: 6.3067
Comments: 5
I had a few comments pointing out slight sharpness imperfections (and it's a pretty damn sharp candid, I should add...tough to do better without a tripod), DOF choice....and the subjects attire not being right for the story I was telling. What? All I could do was laugh.
Next time I'm out shooting candids...I'll plant the tripod and pray that that one in a million moment stops in front of my lens and I'll keep a change of wardrobe...hat's, sunglasses, shoes...props etc.
Anyway, it looks like some level headed voters are starting to turn out. We should all be a little better off.
Message edited by author 2006-04-12 18:26:28. |
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04/12/2006 06:24:12 PM · #91 |
WHAT you mean you guys didnt Scream at the people in the background to move??? or chop down signs, trees.. or other things that might look out of place in a CANDID photo ???
Onthe up side... there are some EXCELLENT CANDID photos :) and those people should be very proud of the work that you did to make sur they're candid
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04/12/2006 06:26:44 PM · #92 |
I am getting hammered for mine not being a candid. Without going into details, if you catch a subject having fun and you say, 'guys look here' and they look, is that not a candid? I have read all of the thread and can understand all the points made and now wish I had chosen another shot, but I was led by the previous two challenges, especially Manny Librodo's 4th place entry in Candid 2.
Anyhow, I guess I deserve the score for not thinking a little more about this...
Votes: 69
Views: 83
Avg Vote: 4.7681
Comments: 4
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 04/12/06 06:26 pm
All the comments basically say it's a great shot but not a candid.
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04/12/2006 06:34:59 PM · #93 |
I'm getting F'ed in the A because people dont feel that my shot meets the challenge. Candid is unposed, and animals therefore can be candid...
Votes: 65
Views: 78
Avg Vote: 3.8615
Comments: 3
-_- Ridiculous |
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04/12/2006 06:43:51 PM · #94 |
Votes: 66
Views: 84
Avg Vote: 6.0000
Comments: 3
No trees in the wrong place...
Message edited by author 2006-04-12 18:49:07. |
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04/12/2006 06:59:49 PM · #95 |
Originally posted by Artyste:
To be honest, I don't think a majority of people are even aware of what "candid" is, or means.
It does not mean that a great candid shot is one where you primarily concentrate on the technicals of the shot. Composition, background elements, clarity, DOF, etc.. should always be a part of a great photograph, but when you're doing Candid photography, these become *SECONDARY*. You are trying to capture a moment. You are not trying to *create* a moment.
Does that difference make any sense to some of you out there? The best candids will be the lucky ones that get everything right without trying. But there are fantastic candids that constantly get barked on because.. OMG, a tree is in the wrong spot. So sorry, I'll remember to press the hold button on my TVR Life Remote next time and go chop down the tree.
It is *not* always better if the model is looking into the camera.
If you're going to pose people and pretend it's candid, at least try and do it in an environment that suggests that the action they are doing is something people would actually *do* there.
I could go on and on.
DPC seems to be a culture of "The Set-Up Shot" now. That's the way it is I guess, but come-on people. This is a Candid challenge, not a "Try and make it look candid, but remove natural elements" challenge.
Anyway, this will probably be ignored, so go back to happy voting, and the next time you see a funny, great candid that makes you smile or laugh and you're about to hit that 8 - 10 button but.. oh dear, there's a fence post there that distracts a tiny bit.. maybe you should just give that 8-10 anyway. For this challenge. |
Completely agree with every word! Only slight tweak I would make is - you can actually anticipate a candid moment (based on the environment, e.g., lot of people on the street, someone doing a balancing act with too many bags, kids playing with paint, etc.) and SET YOURSELF UP to take the picture at that perfect candid moment - in other words, set your camera up with the appropriate settings just waiting to take the shot when/if it occurs. In those cases, you CAN set-up the shot (so to speak) AND nail the technicals.
FYI, hovering at a 5.9
Message edited by author 2006-04-12 19:02:39. |
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04/12/2006 07:00:27 PM · #96 |
| Because I love candids so much I'm trying to comment on as many as possible. Feel like I've been at it forever and I've only done 40. Trying to say more than nice pic or cute kid. Hopefully I'll get to at least 40 per day... Bumping (up) as I go, commenting on all scores... |
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04/12/2006 07:00:53 PM · #97 |
| Why is it that the people in the forums are totally comprehending and understanding the candid concept, but the voters are not? LOL I'll be voting on this myself when I get some free time, and rest assured will NOT be handing out low DNMC scores like the masses are currently doing |
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04/12/2006 07:02:37 PM · #98 |
Originally posted by macpapas:
Originally posted by Artyste:
To be honest, I don't think a majority of people are even aware of what "candid" is, or means.
It does not mean that a great candid shot is one where you primarily concentrate on the technicals of the shot. Composition, background elements, clarity, DOF, etc.. should always be a part of a great photograph, but when you're doing Candid photography, these become *SECONDARY*. You are trying to capture a moment. You are not trying to *create* a moment.
Does that difference make any sense to some of you out there? The best candids will be the lucky ones that get everything right without trying. But there are fantastic candids that constantly get barked on because.. OMG, a tree is in the wrong spot. So sorry, I'll remember to press the hold button on my TVR Life Remote next time and go chop down the tree.
It is *not* always better if the model is looking into the camera.
If you're going to pose people and pretend it's candid, at least try and do it in an environment that suggests that the action they are doing is something people would actually *do* there.
I could go on and on.
DPC seems to be a culture of "The Set-Up Shot" now. That's the way it is I guess, but come-on people. This is a Candid challenge, not a "Try and make it look candid, but remove natural elements" challenge.
Anyway, this will probably be ignored, so go back to happy voting, and the next time you see a funny, great candid that makes you smile or laugh and you're about to hit that 8 - 10 button but.. oh dear, there's a fence post there that distracts a tiny bit.. maybe you should just give that 8-10 anyway. For this challenge. |
Completely agree with every word! Only slight tweak I would make is - you can actually anticipate a candid moment (based on the environment, e.g., lot of people on the street, someone doing a balancing act with too many bags, kids playing with paint, etc.) and SET YOURSELF UP to take the picture at that perfect candid moment - in other words, set your camera up with the appropriate settings just waiting to take the shot when/if it occurs. In those cases, you CAN set-up the (shot so to speak) AND nail the technicals.
FYI, hovering at a 5.9 |
This is true, but I'm not really calling out photographers here, just voters ;) |
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04/12/2006 07:06:22 PM · #99 |
Originally posted by Artyste:
This is true, but I'm not really calling out photographers here, just voters ;) |
I hear ya! But hopefully the voters are photographers too. :-) |
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04/12/2006 07:13:03 PM · #100 |
My entry is doing pretty well:
Votes: 64
Views: 83
Avg Vote: 6.1406
Comments: 5
It is down quite a bit from earlier in the day when it was 6.22. It was really hard for me to decide which picture to enter for the challenge - over the weekend I got quite a few nice ones. You always wonder if a different one would have scored even better! |
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