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Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

04/06/2006 12:34:50 PM · #28

First time I am having a good look at this photo - Candid or not - WOW!!!!!!!!!!! Absolutely perfect. Is it realy like this on these streets? Can't imagine begin to imagine living like this - I love the open spaces, Green plants etc. I am exactly 5minutes walk away from nature - WILD as it comes.

Originally posted by yakatme:

Originally posted by olbol:
Honestly. How on Earth are we supposed to verify that a candid was not carefully staged?

It doesn't matter. Take a look at the blue ribbon winner in "Singled Out", the last "candid style" challenge that took place.

Although the challenge details said to "drop your fear of candids", the subject in the winning image did not appear to be candid.

The image was exceptionally good, and that seemed to make everyone forget about the nitty gritty of the challenge details.

error99

Canon EOS-6D

04/06/2006 12:40:18 PM · #29

Some wonderful candids here:

candid

04/06/2006 12:43:54 PM · #30

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

How about if I shoot myself without knowing about it? Is that candid? :-P

I am sure if someone takes the photo while you shoot yourself (accidently with a gun) - it would actually be a perfect candid. Don't realy think you would enjoy the candid very much.

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM for Canon

04/06/2006 12:50:51 PM · #31

Does a candid have to be of a person? Could it be of an animal in a candid moment?

Edit: Is that a stupid question? I thought candid just meant unposed or a spontaneous shot...something not set up? It wouldn't be of an animal in a studio, but couldn't it be of a humorous situation just happened upon?

Message edited by author 2006-04-06 12:57:43.

Keith Maniac

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

04/06/2006 12:59:56 PM · #32

Originally posted by joycobb:

Does a candid have to be of a person? Could it be of an animal in a candid moment?

Edit: Is that a stupid question? I thought candid just meant unposed or a spontaneous shot...something not set up?

I was wondering about this, too. I think that an unposed shot of an animal would qualify as a candid, but having said that, I think that it would get massacred by (many of) the voters.

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM

04/06/2006 01:08:24 PM · #33

Originally posted by Keith Maniac:

I was wondering about this, too. I think that an unposed shot of an animal would qualify as a candid, but having said that, I think that it would get massacred by (many of) the voters.

Yeah, it might. Even though the description doesn't say it must be a candid of a person...the voters are probably expecting a human situation. ALTHOUGH, it is much more difficult to pose an animal than a person, so therefore more likely to be completely candid, in my opinion, and not set up.

I would call this a candid! :) (Keith's)

Message edited by author 2006-04-06 13:14:54.

Seanachai

Canon EOS-20D

04/06/2006 01:21:14 PM · #34

I have had a few people ask if this was staged but it wasn't. I was taking a break at a convention in DC and walked by this scene and set up my camera on self timer and shot a few times and hoped for the best. I think the suggestion of carrying your camera around in the challenge description and capture what you see is good advice because it really worked for me in the shot above. Best of luck to all who enter the challenge and have fun :)

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

04/06/2006 01:25:18 PM · #35

That's a great candid image, Seanachai!
This challenge isn't timed right...should have happened when we were visiting NYC last month. :) We live out in the middle of nowhere...not a lot of crowds around here. Even our "city" isn't much more than a town.

BrennanOB

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

04/06/2006 01:25:57 PM · #36

Originally posted by joycobb:

Does a candid have to be of a person? Could it be of an animal in a candid moment?

the same question came up in the portrait challenge, and yes there were some very nice pet portraits; of course they got hammered in the voting, so submit what you like, but the voting will favor candids that have at least one human face in them.

Sigma 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC for Nikon

04/06/2006 01:27:21 PM · #37

Originally posted by BrennanOB:

Thank you. Sigh...guess I will reconsider.

Titia

Sony DSC-F717

04/06/2006 02:44:46 PM · #38

If you want to see some really nice candid shots, look here Candid Photos Someone I know from another photo site.

Candid means 'not knowing to be photographed', so... if you ask people if it's ok before you take a shot, it's not candid anymore in my book.

And for the sake of privacy, one should always ask afterwards if one's allowed to use the photo.

As for pets and the likes...those are always candids, never heard of an animal that agreed to pose for a photographer LOL

Message edited by author 2006-04-06 14:46:37.

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM

04/06/2006 02:54:19 PM · #39

Originally posted by Titia:

As for pets and the likes...those are always candids, never heard of an animal that agreed to pose for a photographer LOL

You OBVIOUSLY have not seen ShutterPugs Pug Photos yet - These dogs pose better than any human being (And they pose for free). My African Gray Parrot will also pose - only when he feels like it.
My cats can do a brilliant pose. They will "play dead" when the conditions are just right - sun shining on stomach on a cold day. They can keep this pose for hours.

srdanz

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

04/06/2006 02:59:59 PM · #40

Here is one candid of an animal...

noodleboy

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

04/06/2006 03:02:07 PM · #41

Originally posted by srdanz:

Here is one candid of an animal...

I think that would be suicide with DPC voters

Message edited by author 2006-04-06 15:02:25.

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

04/06/2006 03:05:04 PM · #42

Originally posted by srdanz:

Here is one candid of an animal...

and here's another (although I don't think of animal shots as candids):

pawdrix

Nikon D700

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.4D IF

04/06/2006 03:28:34 PM · #43

Are animals aware that they are being photographer? I assume a few actually do?

Do they look at images of themselves and say..."hey, that's a good one...I like that...could I get a print?" "Nice camera...is that a Nikon?"

Just kidding...

I'm hoping not to see animal shots although they could well fit the bill. Candids of people IMHO are the name of the game and for me a greater challenge than getting a candid animal shot. Again, just an opinion....and a generalization.

Message edited by author 2006-04-06 15:36:06.

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

04/06/2006 03:35:15 PM · #44

Originally posted by pawdrix:

Do they look at images of themselves and say..."hey, that's a good one...I like that...could I get a print?" "Nice camera...is that a Nikon?"

My African Gray actualy does recognise the camera. Whenever he sees the camera he will start calling his own name and say "staan" (meaning stand/pose)
I printed a photo of him in A4, framed it and put it up next to his cage - He talks to this photo the whole day (this makes me think that the bird is actually female - poor photo can't get a word in LOL).
I don't think he recognises himself, but he sees the photo.
I also don't think he sees the camera as a CAMERA, but he associates the form with the words.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

04/06/2006 03:48:41 PM · #45

Re: animal shots as candids, way back when I first joined I entered the following in "Candid II" and got roundly trounced because it was of poor Karma, not a human. Personally, I think you can do "true candids" of animals, but the voters don't (or didn't) agree:

ON the other "debate" raging in here, where people are suggesting that as soon as the subject becomes aware of the camera s/he becomes a "model", I say "Balderdash!" To suggest that JJ's shot is not a candid because the passer-by saw him shooting and focused his eyes on him is absolutely ridiculous; that IS the spontaneous moment JJ captured, that truly candid moment of awareness. Without it, there's no picture.

Candids happen all the time in environments where people are aware they are being photographed, for heaven's sake. The essential difference between candid and not-candid lies in the realm of directing or posing your subjects, not in their lack of awareness that you are there. Children, in particular, when they get busy at their play, tend to ignore photographers, and to some extent all people going about their daily business will do this. You could, for instance, spend a couple hours shooting, say, the waitstaff at work in your local bistro, and this would be candid photography.

There's a whole genre of in-your-face street photography that's all about capturing peoples' reactions to BEING photographed, and these are truly candid as well.

Robt.

Message edited by author 2006-04-06 15:52:08.

pawdrix

Nikon D700

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.4D IF

04/06/2006 03:59:58 PM · #46

Well...it looks like you proved me wrong. That's funny stuff.

I'm sure Stanley, here knew he was looking at something...

"To suggest that JJ's shot is not a candid because the passer-by saw him shooting and focused his eyes on him is absolutely ridiculous; that IS the spontaneous moment JJ captured, that truly candid moment of awareness. Without it, there's no picture."

Robert you are so right. I used wedding photographs as an example of people being aware of the camera but that reaction that JJ captured was perfectly candid.

Message edited by author 2006-04-06 16:21:09.

Artifacts

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

04/06/2006 04:02:25 PM · #47

Originally posted by olbol:

Honestly. How on Earth are we supposed to verify that a candid was not carefully staged? I live in a big city, I am taught not to trust people: some of them do not clean after their dogs and some even use spot editing in 'basic rules'. Wonder if anyone attempts to DQ a shot in this challenge on the grounds of it looking a wee too good.

You will learn far more photography by studying the pictures than worrying about if not they are cleverly staged or not.

olbol

Nikon D80

Tokina AF 12-24mm f/4.0 AT-X Pro DX

04/06/2006 05:02:18 PM · #48

Well, stdavidson, and for the 12th time now I am going to ask the same bloody question: how do you put together posed images and those genuinely caught by photographer in one contest bowl?

I am learning quite a lot thankyouverymuch. For instance, never start a thread in forums - you're bound to be misinterpreted anyway.