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08/26/2002 11:26:10 AM · #26 |
I agree but not completly .. I think that a good score is soee sort of achievement, but being satisfied with your own picture is an achievement as well, ans sometimes comments are some kind of achievements. I finally ended at 5.325 which I am happy with , some comments I got made me very happy so .. it is an achievment already, even if it's a small one.
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08/26/2002 11:30:42 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by hbunch7187:
So the topic were chips And someone posted a photo of French fries, even though they are both made from potatoes, you wouldn't consider it meeting the challenge???
Originally posted by gr8photos:
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the point is, i want to be able to see the challenge fulfilled in the photo. even if i assume the challenge must have been fulfilled in the author's mind, if i don't get it, then he/she hasn't been able to bring the point across *to me*. or, if only the title ties the photo to the challenge (for me), then, again, it really doesn't fulfill the challenge as *i* see it. that's the beauty of this site, you get a wild variety of comments. take them all together and they give you an indication of how your photo is interpreted in the big wide world.
that's why it's called a challenge, not just a 'submit your best photo' contest.
so, to answer your question, maybe i would've scored it low, maybe not. depends on how i felt the challenge was meant. if it allowed for creative wordplay, i wouldn't have marked the french fries down. if it specified chips and added a description that excludes french fries to me, then i would've marked it down.
Was about to respond when I noticed gr8photos had read my mind. That's exactly it.
In answer to the question, if the challenge just said chips, because I know that "chips" in the UK is used to describe what other nations call French Fries, then yes, I'd assume it met the challenge.
If the challenge was Banana and I didn't know that in a particular language that this word means book then I'd likely mark a little lower, because the photo didn't say Banana to me.
Kavey
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08/26/2002 11:36:57 AM · #28 |
| Gre8photos...my point behind it was that in Austrailia, what "WE" call french fries are actually called chips. so to THEM it is 100% meeting the challenge, and they would be very confused WHY people were saying that it didn't. "these aren't chips, they're french fries" Unfortunately for them I find that there are a lot of people from the US on here, and they would be simply outnumbered. They would get a bad score because "we" didn't understand their culture, and that's not fair. |
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08/26/2002 11:42:22 AM · #29 |
Hbunch
I can see your point.
I guess what we need to do is strive for challenges which are more internationally homogenous in terms of language usage.
A proposition.
I don't know the international makeup of the mod group, who I am assuming get to discuss future challenge ideas.
But I'd be happy to volunteer as the UK person in an international "committee" to proofread a challenge before it's posted just to give feedback on what the challenge means in the language of that country.
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08/26/2002 12:34:57 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by Kavey:
That's exactly it.
In answer to the question, if the challenge just said chips,
because I know that "chips" in the UK is used to describe what
other nations call French Fries,
Actually, what the UK calls chips, the US (or parts at least) call
Home Fries. In the UK french fries are the same as french fries in the
US (stringy and thin) |
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08/26/2002 12:44:46 PM · #31 |
Well, it's only over the last 10 or 15 years that people in the UK really use the term french fries - when I was a kid, all of them were chips, fat chips, thin chips, McDs chips, mum's chips! All chips! ;)
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08/26/2002 01:19:39 PM · #32 |
And in Frane what we called chips are the ... how could I explain .. the one you get in a bag, like the Lays
Otherwise ... it's 'Frites' what you guys call french fries or chips.
(And by the way : We do not have that 'french dressing' and we eat what is called the 'French bread' like one in a year .. if we still do it. Word by word we call it 'lost bread' because it was supposed for 'poor' family to reuse breads slices from 2 days ago by dipping them nito milk (egg if available) and cook them a little.)
So ... we cannot really have an 'internatinoal' definition of the challenge ! Are you going to translate in french ? in german ? In spanish ?
So I would avoid possible ambiguity (like chips) and ... otherwise ... "C'est la vie" !
Lionel
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08/26/2002 02:19:53 PM · #33 |
heather, i understood what you meant. i am a german and have lived both in the UK and now in the US, i understand the subtle language differences. all i'm saying is that - for me - it comes down to my interpretation of the challenge, which doesn't always have to be literal, unless i feel it was stated to be literal. if i understand the language differences, i probably wouldn't vote down. if i don't, then i would because to *me* the photo wouldn't meet the challenge. hope that clarifies my comment.
Originally posted by hbunch7187:
Gre8photos...my point behind it was that in Austrailia, what "WE" call french fries are actually called chips. so to THEM it is 100% meeting the challenge, and they would be very confused WHY people were saying that it didn't. "these aren't chips, they're french fries" Unfortunately for them I find that there are a lot of people from the US on here, and they would be simply outnumbered. They would get a bad score because "we" didn't understand their culture, and that's not fair.
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