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02/08/2006 09:40:47 PM · #1
From time to time, while complying with the basic editing rules, I see black and white photos with a colored object in it. For example, //www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=287532, and //www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=289348

I'm sure I can achieve the same thing by "spot editing". Can somebody explain to me how photographers did this under the basic editing restrictions? Thanks in advance for you help.
02/08/2006 09:42:34 PM · #2
Check out this tutorial...

//www.dpchallenge.com/tutorial.php?TUTORIAL_ID=25
02/08/2006 09:42:39 PM · #3
helped you post the thumbnails




Under BASIC EDITING:
you cannot spot-desaturate colours, but can selective desaturate colours

Under ADVANCED EDITING:
you can spot-desaturate AND selective desaturate colours

So under Basic Editing, the post processing is about removing all colours except the intended one. This is usually a hit and miss thing, and if you are lucky, you get what you want. Like example, the tombstone photo above. It so happens there are nothing else in the photo with that shade of red, so when all colours are removed, that one shade of red remained on the flower.

Message edited by author 2006-02-08 21:46:15.
03/30/2006 01:13:10 PM · #4
What about desaturating everything with an adjustments layer and them mask the areas you want in color for basic editing?

-Rick
03/30/2006 01:23:11 PM · #5
I'd be carefull using any layers/masking in basic editing. Here a recent shot where I desat the green and yellow and increase the reds and blues. Just remember in basic editing when you processing make adjustments to the whole image and you will be good.......ace


03/30/2006 01:24:22 PM · #6
Originally posted by CarpeNoctem:

What about desaturating everything with an adjustments layer and them mask the areas you want in color for basic editing?

-Rick


nope, only advanced cause you're applying desat to a SELECTION rather than the whole thing
03/30/2006 01:27:19 PM · #7
oh, i thought a selection was something made with a selection tool.
03/30/2006 01:42:38 PM · #8
Originally posted by CarpeNoctem:

oh, i thought a selection was something made with a selection tool.


Normally it is, but there's an adjustment named "selective color" that is legal if applied to the entire image at once. It allows you to tweak the rendering of many different color channels. That and the hue/saturation adjustment can be used in tandem to do a pretty decent job of partial desaturation under basic rules.

Robt.
03/30/2006 02:05:17 PM · #9
Thanks - I'll have to watch that. Normally I am a channel mixer B/W guy - but I use masks all the time for a lot of things.

-Rick
03/30/2006 02:19:48 PM · #10
Originally posted by CarpeNoctem:

oh, i thought a selection was something made with a selection tool.

A mask or alpha channel is exactly the same thing as a selection which has been saved -- make a selection and save it, and then look at the channels pallette and you'll find it there.

Converesly, create an alpha channel and paint something on it, then go to the Select Menu and choose "Load Selection" ...
03/30/2006 03:06:44 PM · #11
Yeah I know about selections being saved in channels, but masks on adjustment layers - I don't understand why that qualifies as a selection.

-Rick
03/30/2006 03:09:32 PM · #12
Originally posted by CarpeNoctem:

Yeah I know about selections being saved in channels, but masks on adjustment layers - I don't understand why that qualifies as a selection.

-Rick

Because it's the same thing.
03/30/2006 03:10:22 PM · #13
Originally posted by CarpeNoctem:

Yeah I know about selections being saved in channels, but masks on adjustment layers - I don't understand why that qualifies as a selection.

-Rick


Well when you have a mask on an adjustment layer and have that layer selected it shows up on the Channels palette as an alpha channel. Btw, masks by their very definition are selections.

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