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Canon EF 200mm f/2.8 L II USM Lens

02/08/2006 12:36:08 PM · #1

For those that feel voters do not comment enough, what percentage of voters do you realistically think should comment on images?

skewsme

Canon EOS-6D

02/08/2006 01:42:24 PM · #2

98% of those leaving 1's, 2's and 3's ;-)

02/08/2006 01:52:13 PM · #3

Originally posted by stdavidson:

For those that feel voters do not comment enough, what percentage of voters do you realistically think should comment on images?

Speaking of comments I wanted to start a thread because I am going crazy over my abstract entry and no comments ... over 100 votes ... I don't think I've ever had ZERO comments at this point before. My image is averaging 5's, so I guess there is no "WOW" or no "THIS SUCKS" to express.

I agree with Meanwile, explanations are necessary with those votes.

My goal in 2006 is to comment on ten % if the challenge has over 300 entries, a higher % is possible if less than 300. We all love to get the ego boosting comments like " wonderful top 10" but I am going to try and give a positive with a something I'd like to see different, that's how we are learning. That's enough from me ;)

02/08/2006 01:53:09 PM · #4

BTW - You give very thorough comments Stdavidson.

Canon EF 200mm f/2.8 L II USM Lens

02/08/2006 02:01:37 PM · #5

Originally posted by hideout:

BTW - You give very thorough comments Stdavidson.

Thanks. That is very kind of you to say.

skewsme

Canon EOS-6D

02/08/2006 02:05:45 PM · #6

Thanks Hideout. And I second that stdavidson gives very thoughtful feedback. I have no comments on my astract entry either, and am just chalking it up to the nature of the challenge, which forces many to vote with their guts.

_eug

02/08/2006 02:13:31 PM · #7

Originally posted by meanwile:

I feel it's due to too many challenges open to voting/commenting right now.

e301

02/08/2006 02:18:39 PM · #8

One would be enough, if it made me think differently from how I thought before reading it.

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wavelength

Nikon D300

02/08/2006 02:20:37 PM · #9

Originally posted by meanwile:

98% of those leaving 1's, 2's and 3's ;-)

Assuming you're not voting on a pic that's taken by a camera phone or a third grader.....

02/08/2006 06:07:01 PM · #10

Originally posted by meanwile:

98% of those leaving 1's, 2's and 3's ;-)

Hmmmmm... I was hoping to get more ideas about how many is needed than this and hideout's ambitious 2006 comment goal.

I guess when it comes to putting a figure on it, it is easier to say you don't get enough comments than to identify how many would be reasonable. :)

_eug

02/08/2006 07:57:18 PM · #11

Originally posted by stdavidson:

Go to Challenges > Challenge History and each line contains an Average # Comments as the last figure.

PaulE

Canon EOS-50D

02/08/2006 07:59:55 PM · #12

One comment would be enough if it were at Critique Club level. how can I improve? that's what I'm after.

_eug

02/08/2006 08:05:47 PM · #13

Originally posted by PaulE:

One comment would be enough if it were at Critique Club level. how can I improve? that's what I'm after.

Chances are looking slim... Currently the CC queue is at 719 requests.

PaulE

Canon EOS-50D

02/08/2006 08:12:03 PM · #14

I understand. Personally I'm trying to give one CC level of depth comment per challenge. It takes time (so respect to CC) but is good for me - forces me to think in greater depth.

02/09/2006 04:49:33 PM · #15

Originally posted by meanwile:

98% of those leaving 1's, 2's and 3's ;-)

Interesting suggestion though I am not so sure that qualifies as "reasonable". :)

I don't give many scores in that area. There just are not that many images submitted that are that bad. But I reviewed my own voting record and I'm not even close to that percentage. This sounds cruel, but most images in that range are so poorly done that they are beyond the help of a critique and many are just pranksters going for the coveted brown ribbon. You can never tell which is which. :)

I did a general review of comments for low scoring images in a few challenges and felt they, surprisingly, were of much better quality than the average comment given. Maybe that could make up for less than 98% commenting on them. :)

02/09/2006 04:55:53 PM · #16

Originally posted by hideout:

My goal in 2006 is to comment on ten % if the challenge has over 300 entries, a higher % is possible if less than 300. We all love to get the ego boosting comments like " wonderful top 10" but I am going to try and give a positive with a something I'd like to see different, that's how we are learning. That's enough from me ;)

Good luck... looks like it might be an uphill battle. It will put you in some good company. Konador comments on nearly 20% of all images he votes on. I'll stick with my paulty 6.7%, thank you! ;)

Like you, I feel the quality of the comment is most important.

02/09/2006 04:59:29 PM · #17

Originally posted by PaulE:

One comment would be enough if it were at Critique Club level. how can I improve? that's what I'm after.

E301 expressed this view too.

I think this is the best suggestion. It is not the quantity of comments you get, it is the quality! You don't have to be on the critique club to give comments at that level.

02/09/2006 05:52:03 PM · #18

Just had to laugh, reading the bits about "quality vs quantity" comments and checked my abstract entry ... finally a comment after 120 votes ... here it is, hold your breath ... "very nice shot".

I'll take it.

02/09/2006 06:07:37 PM · #19

[quote=stdavidson] Good luck... looks like it might be an uphill battle.

Oh man, I figured my 2005 commenting average to be right around 2% (so I have been shy for 6 months), I'd better get going to make it up that 10% hill. I may have to include a few "nice shot" now and again to fulfill my goal.

02/09/2006 07:14:14 PM · #20

Originally posted by hideout:

That is soooooooooooo funny! LOL!

I saw your percentage of comments was somewhere around there. And, yes, there are a bunch of "way to go!" comments in my 6.7%. ;)

kevrobertson

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

02/09/2006 07:25:02 PM · #21

I try to keep my comments received below my comments made. I know that this sounds petty, but i have trouble voting on all the images.
I try and always comment on my 9s and 10s and then go to the 1s and 2s. I don't give many 1s or 2s they have to be really bad and small and out of focus and not fitting the challenge to get a 1. A bit like all my entries then?...