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Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

01/30/2006 06:07:49 PM · #1

Well, it was near dark...my first impression: What I read was correct, this thing is built like a tank. If the Nikkor is really plasticy (I wouldn't know because I've never tried it), then I made the right move.

Anyway, you know I had to take a few pictures with it...

12mm f/4 1/6 sec, hand-held...

Second impressions: it's definately not as wide as I was imagining it was going to be for some stupid reason. It's wide enough, I definately am not going to return it for a Sigma 10-20 or anything...I have no idea what I was expecting though, but anyway, I only took like 10 shots with it. I plan to use it more, obviously, when it's nice (after our week-long rain spell that begins tonight goes away lol).

Ok, done rambling...comments welcome.

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EDIT:
Tokina future uncertain

Message edited by author 2006-01-31 23:15:51.

alfresco

Nikon D700

01/30/2006 06:11:02 PM · #2

I got the 12-24 at the start of December - I love love love it.

You've made a wise choice, imo :)

Canon EOS-20D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

01/30/2006 06:11:32 PM · #3

Makes your truck look as tall as the first level of the building!

fotomann_forever

01/30/2006 06:12:03 PM · #4

Nice truck ;-)

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS

01/30/2006 06:14:54 PM · #5

I'm seriously considering this lens for myself...by all accounts everyone raves about it's performance. I'll be interested to see more shots from it.

bucket

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

01/30/2006 06:14:58 PM · #6

how did you make the lens choice?
I have been planning to get a wide angle..(not that I can pull it off necessarily)...
but have been looking at the Tamron 17-35..any thoughts on one vs. the other?..advantage in the 12 vs. 17?
any advantages in the Tamron besides speed?
congrats by the way on your purchase..

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

01/30/2006 06:32:00 PM · #7

Originally posted by bucket:

The 12mm is almost 50% wider than the 17mm. 12+6=18... By the same token, 10mm is 20% wider than 12mm. When you get down to this range, tiny mm changes make huge angular changes. I'm glad I have the Canon 10-22mm :-)

R.

bucket

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

01/30/2006 07:04:20 PM · #8

thanks Bear..I think I am okay with the technical specs..but wha tI don't know is do people that have the Tamron usually have another wide angle lens..or why buy it at all, if simply wider is better?
I can't go around buying lots of lenses..so which would go with a Tamron 28-75?..you have the Canon Bear..how useful is that extra 20%?
sorry deapee if you think I am wrecking your thread I can move on..

01/30/2006 07:06:40 PM · #9

I was strongly considering the Sigma 10-20 and the Nikkor 105 f/2.8 Micro...

Then I dropped my 18-70 and shipped it off to Nikon...so the 10-20 took the top of the list. Then I read some things that turned me off of it, B&H was out of stock on it, ritzcamera didn't have it...I looked into the Nikkor 12-24...

It turns out the Tokina is said to be better-built and the same in optical quality as the Nikkor, all for half the price...so I got the Tokina.

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I'm not going to lie, I do wish it was a bit wider, but I'm not going to complain or send it back to get the 10-20 -- I figure at 10mm, I'll probably have way too much distortion, and I'm always shooting with my lenses at widest, no matter what...so I think quality would suffer in the long-run.

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That being said, and as Bear mentioned, when you're this close, millimeters start to matter...

the 12 on a 1.5 sensor (d70) is cropped to be a 18. on a Canon with a 1.6 crop factor, it'd be a 19.2 -- I think if I had a Canon, I'd be really tempted to get either the Canon 10-20 or the Sigma 10-20 though for that reason alone.

I look forward to using it some more, when the week-long rain spell stops.

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Thanks for the compliments on the truck.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

01/30/2006 07:07:53 PM · #10

Originally posted by bucket:

sorry deapee if you think I am wrecking your thread I can move on..

Believe me man, you're good...talk about whatever you want...but you're just not allowed to say anything negative about the Steelers :D

alfresco

Nikon D700

01/30/2006 07:12:32 PM · #11

Originally posted by deapee:

I was strongly considering the Sigma 10-20 and the Nikkor 105 f/2.8 Micro...

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It turns out the Tokina is said to be better-built and the same in optical quality as the Nikkor, all for half the price...so I got the Tokina.

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I followed the same path - except for the dropping the 18-70 - and arrived at the same conclusion.

I still think you've made an exceptionally wise choice, this is a fun, wide lens!

msieglerfr

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5D

01/30/2006 07:14:39 PM · #12

I got my tokina last week. Just a great lens. Do not spend too much time with the tamron 11-18mm, which is a crappy lens to my optinion. Here is one shot that I took two days ago.

01/30/2006 07:17:28 PM · #13

wow man, nice shot.

I only wish that I had originally bought a 77mm polarizer and a step-down ring instead of the 67mm that I currently have.

Did you have to get a 'slim' one for this lens? I tossed my 77mm UV filter from my 80-200 on there, and I didn't get any vignetting -- maybe the tiniest bit, but not enough to concern myself with.

msieglerfr

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5D

01/30/2006 07:28:05 PM · #14

Hello Deapee,

Well, yes, I got a 77mm polariser (thin enough, so there is no vignetting at all). A polarizer is always a good investment for two reasons:

1) I generally shot with wide angle to see one part of the sky. So I like to use the polarizer to make some nice colour effects.
2) Protect my lens

Alright, I think Tokina did a really great job. The built quality is way beyond what I was expected. For 450$, it is really worth to buy. (beachcamera.com).

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

01/30/2006 07:39:17 PM · #15

Originally posted by bucket:

"That extra 20%" is a LOT more noticeable in the wide range than the gap between 22 and 25 is in the mid-range. It's a 10% gap in the mid-range...

R.

buzzrock

Fujifilm X-M1

Fujifilm XC 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 OIS

01/30/2006 07:52:20 PM · #16

It is a Pretty Ranger though, I miss mine-- cool shot DP

msieglerfr

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5D

01/30/2006 07:53:11 PM · #17

One important factor to consider is the distorsion. I wonder what will be the distorsion of 10mm vs 12mm. I think the difference is quite noticeable.

Nikolai1024

Nikon D300

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 24-85mm f2.8-4.0D

01/30/2006 07:53:49 PM · #18

Enjoy....

I'm going to order my wide angle lens soon too. I've rented Nikon 12-24 twice and loved it! Too bad I can't rent Tokina to compare.

Nick

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 12-24mm f/4.0G IF-ED

01/30/2006 08:09:42 PM · #19

Nick: from what I've read, and I did a lot of reading, it is built better, and feels more solid than the Nikkor.

buzz: thanks. I had an Edge with a 3.0 V6 before this one, and I knew I had to get the 4.0L and manual tranny...I'm happy with it.

jbsmithana

Nikon D300

01/30/2006 08:26:34 PM · #20

Originally posted by deapee:

I handled them both and I would not say there is a great difference in quality. They both weigh within an ounce of each other and feel pretty substantial. Zoom operates smoothly. I go with the Nikon for focus speed and it is very quiet, you hardly know it focused. Price is a big issue though as the Nikon, as you say, is nearly twice as much.

I went with the Nikon just because. Hey, "im a Nikon guy. Their rep is good on the better lenses so why not as long as it does not bust the bank.

But either choice will be good I suspect.

Message edited by author 2006-01-30 20:27:59.

01/30/2006 09:00:49 PM · #21

Yeah, I did hear the focusing on the Nikkor is better...I just don't know how often I'm really going to need critical focusing with this or fast subject-tracking. I figure it'll probably live its normal life at f/8 and focused to infinity. I mean heck, f/4 @ 12mm focus at 8 feet gives me enough DOF to be happy with.

Maverick

Tamron SP AF 90mm f/2.8 Di for Nikon

01/30/2006 09:04:32 PM · #22

hey dave, do you have any links of shots from the tokina? The ones i've seen on dpreview (nikon forums anyway) never really impressed me, but the bridge shot and your truck show off the lens pretty well.

01/30/2006 09:06:03 PM · #23

yeah, lemme find them...