1D MKII or 5D? - DPChallenge Forums

01/10/2006 03:46:39 PM · #1

Just a quick question to owners of either (or both). A dream many moons ago was to get my hands on a Canon 1d MKII (drool). Today the 5D seems a better option both financially and for specs.

I tried a search for peoples thoughts but turned nothing up here - anybody have any thoughts? (other than why!)

Brent_Ward

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L USM

01/10/2006 03:48:40 PM · #2

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Looking at what you shoot, teh 5D seems more of a fit.

DanSig

01/10/2006 04:05:55 PM · #3

I had the same thoughts in december, and since I don't shoot sports I went with the 5D, the 1D has advantage in sports due to more fps, but for everything else, the 5D has the advantage :)

Mattel Barbie Photo Designer Digital Camera

01/10/2006 04:10:20 PM · #4

txs for the thoughts, I guess I'm thinking in the right way. I've still got my 300D and tend to leave longer lenses on that, oh joy if I can have wider lenses on a 5D and keep the big guys on the 20D (stretching things with the bonus though).

The 300D along with Grip,remote, 18-55 and 10-22 may be up for grabs soon ;)

nsbca7

01/10/2006 04:22:10 PM · #5

Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:
Just a quick question to owners of either (or both). A dream many moons ago was to get my hands on a Canon 1d MKII (drool). Today the 5D seems a better option both financially and for specs.

I tried a search for peoples thoughts but turned nothing up here - anybody have any thoughts? (other than why!)

Looking at what you shoot, teh 5D seems more of a fit.

I would agree. I believe with the full frame of the 5D your world will get bigger. It will just change the way you look at things.

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

01/10/2006 05:00:34 PM · #6

I love the speed of the 1DII for shooting sports.

I love the weather sealing of the 1DII for the obnoxious environments I've shot in (deserts, concerts, sailing)

I'd love a full frame sensor though.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

01/10/2006 05:45:58 PM · #7

I'm going with the crowd here... unless you really need more than 3fps, or you shoot with alarming regularity in inclement environments, the 5D is the way to go. It's one helluva machine =)

01/10/2006 05:55:23 PM · #8

Well, guess I'm sold then :) I've seen the 5D in the highstreet for <Â£1900!

01/10/2006 06:04:23 PM · #9

I tried out the MKII, I love it, it is fantastic! and if I had the cash I would buy it......as you say, DROOL! And, like Gordon says, the weather sealing is the money worth... but I can't afford it, sniff :( But if I had the choice between the 5D and the MKII I'd take the MKII hands down!

However as it is, I am changing to Nikon and buying the D200. The reviews are outstanding and from what I have seen so far the price/quality ratio is better for me.

Brent_Ward

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L USM

01/10/2006 06:07:59 PM · #10

Originally posted by kiwiness:

Are you selling that 70-200 IS ? ;o)

01/10/2006 06:14:17 PM · #11

Originally posted by kiwiness:

Hands down? apart from the weather resistance (I'm off to the arctic circle next year), fps/buffer and clicks why would it be better (I'm a snob but if the 5D is a better cam I'll take it).

01/10/2006 06:14:21 PM · #12

Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

Are you selling that 70-200 IS ? ;o)

No, my wife has my whole Canon kit now..... I gave everything to her last year, and now I regret it :( Now i got stuck with her old Nikon gear. Ask her maybe she will sell the 70-200, she doesn't use it :)

01/10/2006 06:19:05 PM · #13

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Hands down? apart from the weather resistance (I'm off to the arctic circle next year), fps/buffer and clicks why would it be better (I'm a snob but if the 5D is a better cam I'll take it).

I got stuck on the 8.5 f/ps too, it sounded like a Kalashnikov to me, I like that! And it felt like a baby in my hands, drool!

IceRock

Canon EOS-20D

01/10/2006 06:20:00 PM · #14

Did you ask your old lady ?

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

01/10/2006 06:21:23 PM · #15

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Hands down? apart from the weather resistance (I'm off to the arctic circle next year), fps/buffer and clicks why would it be better (I'm a snob but if the 5D is a better cam I'll take it).

It's like everyone else has said. The 1 series cameras are better built, more robust, weather sealed, perform faster, focus faster, shoot faster.

The 5D has a bigger sensor going for it. Otherwise it is lesser than the 1DII in pretty much every way.

If you print big, the 5D makes sense. If you need performance other than sensor size the 1DII makes more sense. If you need that build quality, weather sealing and performance, other than fps, the 1DsII is there.

The 5D is more like an upgraded 20D in terms of features.

Message edited by author 2006-01-10 18:27:22.

01/10/2006 06:24:20 PM · #16

Yep, that what Gordon says!

IceRock

Canon EOS-20D

01/10/2006 06:31:45 PM · #17

I live on the doorstep on the arctic circle what are you talking about weather have that be a problem.

Only problem I know of regarding weather is Digital Nikon

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Hands down? apart from the weather resistance (I'm off to the arctic circle next year), fps/buffer and clicks why would it be better (I'm a snob but if the 5D is a better cam I'll take it).

It's like everyone else has said. The 1 series cameras are better built, more robust, weather sealed, perform faster, focus faster, shoot faster.

The 5D has a bigger sensor going for it. Otherwise it is lesser than the 1DII in pretty much every way.

If you print big, the 5D makes sense. If you need performance other than sensor size the 1DII makes more sense. If you need that build quality, weather sealing and performance, other than fps, the 1DsII is there.

The 5D is more like an upgraded 20D in terms of features.

01/10/2006 06:36:48 PM · #18

Sorry ladies but, I feel like a women now (no offence). I said earlier the 1d mkII has been my dream but felt technology was moving on? why spend Â£500 more for an older cam that loses 4mp? even I can't depress that shutter 200,000 times, even at 8.5 fps.

01/10/2006 11:23:29 PM · #19

Originally posted by IceRock:

I live on the doorstep on the arctic circle what are you talking about weather have that be a problem.

Only problem I know of regarding weather is Digital Nikon

It rains quite a few places on the planet.
There's quite a lot of sand and dust in other parts.
On occasion that mixes and becomes mud.

None very friendly to a camera that isn't weather sealed. Cold isn't the only thing that causes camera issues.

Sigma 20mm f/1.8 EX Aspherical DG DF RF for Canon

01/10/2006 11:25:41 PM · #20

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Yup, like everyone's said over and over, if you don't need the build quality and reguarly print over 20x30 or make big crops, the 5D is a better option. Also better if you like doing wide angle.

If you don't typically make big prints or don't want to buy really expensive glass for sports, the 1DII out performs the 5D in every other way.

For the 5D you are paying a high premium for the low yield on full frame sensors. The rest of the body & electronics suffer as a result, to even bring it in at the price it currently sits at.

Message edited by author 2006-01-11 11:56:10.

yido

Canon EOS-5D

01/11/2006 12:20:50 AM · #21

I bought the IIN for the robustness of the body. I don't use 8.5fps, but having held the 5D, the 5D feels like a nice consumer camera, the 1D series feel like a very nice professional camera. All the current Canon dslr's take nice pictures, so that wasn't a big deal for me.

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G IF-ED

01/11/2006 06:38:47 PM · #22

Thanks for all the comments peeps, I know things will get cheaper over the coming months/years and it really is time for me to stop spending money. Gut feeling is if I go for the 5D (whilst very happy) I'll still think about the 1d and (currently) imho there is only 1 digital camera in the world that might rival it.

hokie

Nikon D2X

01/11/2006 06:49:43 PM · #23

You know....you can get a real nice used Canon 1ds at B&H for about the same price at a Canon 5D. I thought real hard about that option before I bought my D2x and the main reason is my company uses Nikon and I got really used to our D2x plus anew camera gets all the warranty stuff. But the Canon 1ds is a damn fine camera and getting a great used one for abot $3500 is a great deal!

Falc

Canon EOS-1D Mark III

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

01/11/2006 07:01:37 PM · #24

Oh just save a little extra and go for one of these ....

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