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01/03/2006 01:58:53 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by hokie:
Roy Orbison or even Johnny Cash could be considered more of a pioneer than The Beatles (especilly The Beatles early stuff). |
That's true enough, but ALL the originally-listed examples of "greatness" built on the work of others. This has always been true. There are pioneers who are not Iconic, and there are implementers who become icons. The Beatles, of course, being in the right place and the right time, transcended their work and became true, global icons to a generation. They were deeply influential in the area of social change, through their music.
R.
Message edited by author 2006-01-03 13:59:17. |
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01/03/2006 01:59:36 PM · #27 |
O My, are bill gates and steve jobs REALLY in the same league as Mother Theresa and Ghandi???
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01/03/2006 02:12:22 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by ellamay:
O My, are bill gates and steve jobs REALLY in the same league as Mother Theresa and Ghandi??? |
john lennon was bigger than jesus.
why not?
lol
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01/03/2006 03:20:03 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by ellamay:
O My, are bill gates and steve jobs REALLY in the same league as Mother Theresa and Ghandi??? |
It can be argued that hardware technology inventors like Gates and Jobs or the inventors of internet protocols like Robert Kahn and Vincent Cerf have not had the social impact as a Ghandi or Mother Teresa.
It is harder to argue, however, that Tim Berners-Lee who invented the world wide web and Ray Tomlinson and Lawrence G. Roberts who invented email have NOT had as much social impact.
Their inventions, made possible through dramatic technological advances, have permanently changed the world as we know it.
Without Berners-Lee's invention there would be no DPC.
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01/03/2006 11:29:00 PM · #30 |
Even though the computer is a good thing in many ways. It was supposed to help make the use of paper products obsolete, hence email, burning cd's, floppy disk, but in fact it has increased the consumption of forests around the world.
At least Ghandi, Malcome x, Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks and the like fought for social change.
Mother Theresa fought for human dignity.
Gates, and Jobs, and the like fight to keep their world in our world and charge for their services.
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01/03/2006 11:35:23 PM · #31 |
You forgot 3 huge names of the 80's and 90's
Reagan, John Paul II and Gorbachev... |
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01/03/2006 11:51:40 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by American_Horse:
Even though the computer is a good thing in many ways. It was supposed to help make the use of paper products obsolete, hence email, burning cd's, floppy disk, but in fact it has increased the consumption of forests around the world. |
Has it? I'd be interested to see your source for that.
~Terry
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01/03/2006 11:52:47 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
It is harder to argue, however, that Tim Berners-Lee who invented the world wide web and Ray Tomlinson and Lawrence G. Roberts who invented email have NOT had as much social impact. |
Oh now let us not forget the guy who did the AOL voice "You got mail" that guy had a major social impact.
Message edited by author 2006-01-03 23:53:33. |
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01/03/2006 11:54:43 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by Dirtypainter:
Oh now let us not forget the guy who did the AOL voice "You got mail" that guy had a major social impact. |
I may be mistaken, but I believe it's the same guy who does all the movie trailers.
Now, THAT guy has made major social impact.
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01/04/2006 12:14:53 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Has it? I'd be interested to see your source for that.
~Terry |
Well, my source...(kicking a pebble)....is....(looking up sheapishly)....is....the "Science Channel".
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01/04/2006 12:32:39 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by ellamay:
O My, are bill gates and steve jobs REALLY in the same league as Mother Theresa and Ghandi??? |
Gates will be remembered, as Andrew Carnegie is today ( Carnegie Hall. Carnegie Foundation, the Carnegie Free Libraries....that guy ) as a man who did great things with his money, after he raped and pillaged to make it. And yes, fifty years from now the Gates Foundation will have helped more people than Mother Theresa ever did. Of course Melinda might be better remembered than Bill.
Message edited by author 2006-01-04 00:36:41. |
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01/04/2006 12:49:53 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by American_Horse:
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Has it? I'd be interested to see your source for that.
~Terry |
Well, my source...(kicking a pebble)....is....(looking up sheapishly)....is....the "Science Channel". |
Nothing wrong with that, but I wonder to what extent any increse in the use of paper can be attributed to the use of computers. That paper use has increased since the invention of the computer is not enough to infer that computers are the cause; it's possible that there are other factors, or that the increase would have been greater if not for the computer.
I'm not questioning you, I just wonder about the statistic itself.
~Terry
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01/04/2006 12:58:26 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Originally posted by American_Horse:
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Has it? I'd be interested to see your source for that.
~Terry |
Well, my source...(kicking a pebble)....is....(looking up sheapishly)....is....the "Science Channel". |
Nothing wrong with that, but I wonder to what extent any increse in the use of paper can be attributed to the use of computers. That paper use has increased since the invention of the computer is not enough to infer that computers are the cause; it's possible that there are other factors, or that the increase would have been greater if not for the computer.
I'm not questioning you, I just wonder about the statistic itself.
~Terry |
The other contributing factors for more consumption of wood/paper falls into the realm of demand. Population has exploded from earlier ages thus more demand. More people are in an economic working sector that demands 'paperwork' - paper reports, filing reports, more children more papers/homework/artwork. Not to mention that more people are in an socio- economic standpoint to afford paper goods such as books (unlike serfs or the common man of the middle ages who could not afford books much less read) and there are also the consumables such as paper party goods for office parties/holiday parties/birthday parties etc. etc. etc. |
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01/04/2006 12:59:41 AM · #39 |
The episode basically said that computers were supposed to help save paper. But, because of word prossessing, printing, copying, faxing, and other stuff a computer does contributes to the increase of paper consumption, affecting deforestation.
Another person to think about....
Opra.
Each year, her company gives away millions of dollars to charitable causes.
Is she a humanitarian? Will she be remembered for her contributions? or for her talk show?
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01/04/2006 12:59:50 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Has it? I'd be interested to see your source for that.
~Terry |
Myth of the Paperless Office
The good news is that much of the paper waste in industrial countries is being diverted from the landfill by recycling.
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01/04/2006 01:28:52 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by American_Horse:
....Lawrence of Arabia lately?
Or an Abe Lincoln, or Martin Luther King, or Mozart, or Thomas Jefferson, or Plato, or Ghandi? The list goes on.
Has technology dulled mans spirit? |
How can you tell? Many of those were not appreciated when they wer alive... |
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01/04/2006 01:37:04 AM · #42 |
or Socrates - killed.
or Jesus - killed.
or Lincoln - killed.
or MalcolmX - killed.
or John Lennon?
or Yitzhak Rabin?
or Anwar Sadat?
or Medgar Evars?
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01/04/2006 02:00:56 AM · #43 |
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01/04/2006 03:43:48 AM · #44 |
If we're talking about a modern composer who will continue to be huge you have to acknowledge Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber.
I hesitate to go as far as comparison with Mozart, Bach or Beethoven but in time (usually post mortem) I believe he will continue to be long regarded as a musical genius.
Brett |
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01/04/2006 07:47:31 AM · #45 |
How will Bush be remembered?
As a policeman? As a opportunatist?
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