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 01/03/2006 12:45:44 AM · #1
everything i print looks like it has magenta in it. I changed it to grayscale in PS and I have changed it on the printer too.
Any suggestions?

Lisa
 01/03/2006 12:50:31 AM · #2
Do other people see it too? You know how sometimes if you look at something too much it can get all weird in your head. Do you have only the color cartridge? Maybe the other colors are low and there isnt enought to effectively produce black? I am just guessing. Good luck.
 01/03/2006 12:51:58 AM · #3
no, the magenta is low but the other colours have plenty.
 01/03/2006 12:52:47 AM · #4
ahh.. that's what I what going for but I had it backwards.

Message edited by author 2006-01-03 00:53:09.
 01/03/2006 12:53:46 AM · #5
Check your color cartridge...I have seen this happen if the cartridge is blocked, dried out or getting over

Replacing it should work
 01/03/2006 12:54:21 AM · #6
I have noticed some color casts on b/w prints when one of the print heads has a clog. You may want to try running the printer's nozzle clean/check functions.
 01/03/2006 12:55:22 AM · #7
ok, i will change the way i word it.
I only want to use the black cartridge, no colour at all.
 01/03/2006 12:57:42 AM · #8
Originally posted by lentil:
ok, i will change the way i word it.
I only want to use the black cartridge, no colour at all.


remove the black cartridge, hit it on a white paper and make sure ink is coming out properly... if not, explains your problem.

If the cartridge has been sitting around for a while this happens.

Message edited by author 2006-01-03 00:57:58.
 01/03/2006 12:59:40 AM · #9
the photos come out black and white but with a magenta tinge. I dont want to use the colour at all, just the black cartridge
 01/03/2006 01:01:04 AM · #10
Originally posted by lentil:
I only want to use the black cartridge, no colour at all.


Is the file in question grayscale? You may want to change it back to rgb and print it using your printers color functions! If you use the printer b/w funcion, you are only getting 1024 shades of black and white. Using the color function to print black and white you are getting like 1024 x 1024 x 1024 shades of gray...
 01/03/2006 01:02:12 AM · #11
don't keep the color cartridge while printing, printer should work with just the black cartridge...
 01/03/2006 01:03:30 AM · #12
i am using the grayscale function on the printer driver
 01/03/2006 01:03:41 AM · #13
Originally posted by vikas:
don't keep the color cartridge while printing, printer should work with just the black cartridge...


But you are limiting yourself to the total number of shades of gray...
 01/03/2006 01:05:35 AM · #14
lis, this happened to me twice when i sent my photos off to brisbane at a professional place for printing, they gave me no explaination and reprinted it, only for it to come back a smaller size with stilll the magenta tinge in it...... so far ( touch wood) this hasn't happened with my new printer with the black and whites, i normally use b/w paper too.. which means there are no other colours impregnated in the paper, only black....
 01/03/2006 01:08:27 AM · #15
i think i will buy some different paper and give that a go.
 01/03/2006 02:16:26 AM · #16
One it helps to know what kind of printer. How many color cartridges? 4, 6, 8, etc? Papers can make a difference in this also. If you use the paper that the printer profile is for, then usually not a problem, others yes.
Are you using Photoshop? Open the file, go to Layer, Duplicate Layer and New, set them side by side. then go under the View and Profile Setup. Select the profile for your printer on the new duplicated layer. See any difference? You can then adjust that one until it looks like your original and the print it.
Also you can try differnt profiles (a greyscale one, maybe, or for the specific paper-you can find on the web), but must make sure that when you print it in the Print with Preview, that you select that appropriate profile.
 01/03/2006 02:19:36 AM · #17
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
One it helps to know what kind of printer. How many color cartridges? 4, 6, 8, etc? Papers can make a difference in this also. If you use the paper that the printer profile is for, then usually not a problem, others yes.
Are you using Photoshop? Open the file, go to Layer, Duplicate Layer and New, set them side by side. then go under the View and Profile Setup. Select the profile for your printer on the new duplicated layer. See any difference? You can then adjust that one until it looks like your original and the print it.
Also you can try differnt profiles (a greyscale one, maybe, or for the specific paper-you can find on the web), but must make sure that when you print it in the Print with Preview, that you select that appropriate profile.


Printer is IP5200, it has 5 ink tanks. I am using a glossy paper and I have since read a review that black ink seems to have a problem printing onto glossy paper. I am going to try matte and see how that goes.
 01/03/2006 02:21:54 AM · #18
and this is why I send my prints to DotPhoto or Walmart ... lol ... $2 for an 8x10 and nooooo hassle :-)
 01/03/2006 04:57:29 AM · #19
Not just if matte or glossy, but also who makes the papers makes a difference.
Most printers when printing black and white will use the colors and not just black ink anymore.
You should be able to adjust the magenta down manually also in your printing controls. Getting 4x5 papers of what you are using (or cut them) would make it easier to adjust. and then save the settings for next time. Adjusting it down may bring out other inwated tints though.
Using the Profile setup is usually the best way. And having a hardware calibrated monitor. Could be an issue.
 01/03/2006 02:36:00 PM · #20
Also, if you are serious about doing a lot of black and white prints yourself, you should consider looking into setups where you replace the color cartridge with shades of black/grey. In the same way that more color cartridges can give you better color prints, more shades of grey give better black and whites. Otherwise your printer is going to fudge a bit to get the shades out correctly.

I wouldn't be surprised if you get color casts especially if you aren't using OEM inks with OEM papers. It's one of those situations where that can really matter. Color shifts probably happen with mixed OEM/non-OEM setups, but are probably small enough to be masked by other colors, whereas any color shift occuring in a b/w print is very noticible.
01/03/2006 05:03:54 PM · #21
Originally posted by lentil:
everything i print looks like it has magenta in it. I changed it to grayscale in PS and I have changed it on the printer too.
Any suggestions?

Mentioning a magenta hue to B&W prints reminds me of a VERY similar problem I have with my Epson 4000 printer. It is called metamerism and has given me fits printing B&W.

Like yours mine has multiple ink wells and uses "Chrome"-type inks so there could be similaries between the printers. Believe it or not, but it could be your manufacturer's printer driver that is the problem.

That is one of many reasons why most commercial printing companies buy expensive RIP (Raster Image Processor) software to control printing. It does better than what manufacturers provide for their own printers!

There is a little trick that can be applied from within Photoshop that fixes metamerism for the Epson printer and might work for yours to.

I got a B&W RIP (Quadtone which does not support your model printer) for mine and I am unsure I now remember the exact Photoshop procedure properly, but it involves making a minor adjustment to the numbers with the "color picker" before sending to print.

I have a call into the person that knows and will post the proper procedure when I get it.

If it is not posted by tomorrow PM a reminder to me... I could get distracted and forget to post the procedure. :)


01/03/2006 05:11:22 PM · #22
Usually if you look in the printer driver settings tabs, you will find one where the choice is to use black ink only or to turn off the color. Depending on the printer you hsould have one of these or something close.
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