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 12/20/2005 02:13:17 PM · #26
I have 'em. I can't give blood because of it - my blood pressure drops and down I go. It also happened when I went in to see an allergist and he did an allergy test on me. As I was waiting for the results, down I went.

Dave
 12/20/2005 02:14:17 PM · #27
Originally posted by Britannica:
...but is there really a reason to subject your daughter to extensive testing for something that may never return?


She had fallen the night before and was complaining about a sore neck & ear ache. We thought there might be a head injury.
 12/20/2005 02:21:52 PM · #28
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Originally posted by Britannica:
...but is there really a reason to subject your daughter to extensive testing for something that may never return?


She had fallen the night before and was complaining about a sore neck & ear ache. We thought there might be a head injury.

I'm sorry, I didn't make myself clear -- I wasn't referring to taking her ther the hospital while it was occuring. I was referring more to the knee-jerk reaction I've seen often enough to schedule months of testing with specialists over an isolated incident that may never repeat.

When there is something immediate and wrong, I agree completely that seeking help is not an option -- it's the only thing.

Sorry for the confusion, you certainly don't need that added to your concerns.

David
 12/20/2005 02:39:35 PM · #29
The vagal nervous system is one of two nervous systems in humans (the other being the adrenergic system). The former system is responsible for the maintainance of normal daily functions of the human body, such as, digestion, urination, defecation, maintainance of body temperature and blood vessel size, etc. The opposite adrenergic system, which is usually in balance with the vagal system is responsible for fight or flight responses during emergencies or stress.

A vasovagal response refers to an overly stimulated and dominating vagal system that affects the size of the blood vessels. In this type of response the blood vessels are opened up wide in the peripheral organs, such as the skin and digestive organs, and other non-vital organs, and as a result blood is shunted from the core organs of the brain (syncope), heart (loss of blood pressure), and lungs. In addition, the heart rate slows down further exacerbating the problem.

This is a common problem in the elderly who strain while defecating but I'm not sure what could be causing it in such a young person as your daughter. Consider looking at such factors as the food she eats (allergies?), cardiac congenital anomolies, and constipation.

I wish you and your daughter and your family the best of health and hopefully a speedy and easy resolution to this issue.

12/20/2005 02:53:34 PM · #30
Originally posted by dsa157:
I have 'em. I can't give blood because of it - my blood pressure drops and down I go. It also happened when I went in to see an allergist and he did an allergy test on me. As I was waiting for the results, down I went.

Dave


exactly what happened to me the few times i gave blood.
 12/20/2005 02:56:08 PM · #31
Originally posted by longlivenyhc:
Originally posted by dsa157:
I have 'em. I can't give blood because of it - my blood pressure drops and down I go. It also happened when I went in to see an allergist and he did an allergy test on me. As I was waiting for the results, down I went.

Dave


exactly what happened to me the few times i gave blood.

Hmm, me too. I wonder if I've passed on some sort of gene. :-(
12/20/2005 02:57:32 PM · #32
I'm not one to normally be sick other than general cold/sinus/allergy kinds of things, but whenever I have a stomach virus, I pass out every time I vomit. Dunno why, but it happens. Glad those are few and far between nowadays...when I first began teaching I was sick with every stomach bug that entered my classroom. After more than a decade, I think (hope) I've been around most of them. ;) \

I hope Shelby is better quickly and the docs can give you an explanation. I'll keep your family in mind. :)
 12/20/2005 02:58:18 PM · #33
Everyone's already given you their medical opinions, so let me just wish you good luck in dealing with all this and also tell you that those are some seriousy adorable kids you have there. :-)
 12/20/2005 03:02:51 PM · #34
And not to change the subject, has anyone ever seen / heard of "fainting goats"? I saw them on TV a few weeks back and they are near the top of my "funniest damn thing I ever saw" list.

12/20/2005 03:07:12 PM · #35
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
And not to change the subject, has anyone ever seen / heard of "fainting goats"? I saw them on TV a few weeks back and they are near the top of my "funniest damn thing I ever saw" list.

Darwinism foiled !
 12/20/2005 03:14:36 PM · #36
Originally posted by Strikeslip:


That's hillarious!!
 12/20/2005 03:49:13 PM · #37
i saw the fainting goats on that TV show "wild boys"
hilarious
 05/31/2006 05:21:39 PM · #38
:-(

Happened again 3:00am & 3:20am. No more since then.

:-(
 05/31/2006 05:23:43 PM · #39
Aweeeeeee :( She okay now? That's twice in what... 6 months? Not too bad really.
05/31/2006 05:28:28 PM · #40
Both times it's been brought on by flu-like symptoms. I hate the flu, I thought it wasn't supposed to be around in the spring/summer. My wife said some flu-ish stuff was going around in her jk class.

Maybe we should just become hermits & stay away from all these flu-ish people. >:-(

No more fainting, but some diarrhea & she's really worn out.

Message edited by author 2006-05-31 17:29:21.
 05/31/2006 05:29:44 PM · #41
Come to Florida - we don't get much flu..... oh and make sure you get your daughter a flu shot every year if that seems to be a catalyst
 05/31/2006 05:52:59 PM · #42
Oh man, I get this sometimes and it stinks. :( I was told it was an "overactive vasovagal response causing severe bloodpressure fluctuations". I am the queen of weird physical maladies. :)

Mosty anytime I go into shock (like, from cutting my finger) or anytime I get my adrenaline up and then do something like take a hot shower I pass out. I had to stop going to the gym because I was freaking people out passing out after a workout in the shower. I scared the beeejeebus out of my midwife when I had my daughter and promptly passed out cold on the floor. And it happens anytime I have to have a blood draw - especially if I havent eaten that day.

If its like mine, she will be ok and once you figure out what causes it, you can avoid those situations. Its gotten better for me over the last few years just by being prepared and carefull. Its not really a big deal, but its scary as heck when it happens. Its over quick enough though. Hopefully its just the vomiting that causes it.

Hugs to you and your girl though. Nothing scarier Im sure.. :)

05/31/2006 06:24:04 PM · #43
I'm prone to vasovagal responses, it usually accompanies some sort of stimuli, mostly when I think something is wrong with my body.

Earlier this year I had to have surgery. I had to have a spinal. When I woke and was able to move my legs, the nurses wanted me to get up and pee. There I was standing at the toilet, straining to pee and bloop, hit the floor.

I can't give blood for the same reason. Nor, will I ever get my tongue pierced again...lol
 11/17/2006 08:16:07 AM · #44
My poor honey had a few more episodes last night after barfing, then a trip to the hospital, then another one after coming back home again. I feel terrible as I'm practically on the other side of the continent and my family is going through this without me. Supposedly she's fine now.
:-(

11/17/2006 11:07:01 AM · #45
th bad thing with it coming from vomiting is that , they kind of keep perpetuating each other. Vomiting can cause it, then when recovering from the vasovagal response (passing out) they can feel sweaty and more nauseous. which can make them vomit again.
do you know what is starting the vomiting? she isn't ill (stomach flu, etc.) already?
 11/30/2006 03:58:29 PM · #46
In the interest of future random web searchers on this subject, I just wanted to add what is probably the conclusion to all this.

Last night my girl had a couple more of these episodes while/after barfing from fever or whatever. It was a hellish night, and I sure hope it's over, but maybe not.

Anyway... It just so happened that we had previously had a 'concluding' meeting with a specialist scheduled for today. Over the preceding four months she's been through a dozen or so different tests, which I don't have the energy to repeat after no sleep for the last two nights running. Stuff like CAT-scans, EEG, ECG, all sorts of G's... one wearing a heart monitor for 24 hours, one a sleeping test, blood tests, etc etc, but nothing invasive.

The answer:

85 to 90% probability that it's epilepsy. Of course we had this suspision all along as my wife has it (1995 was her last seisure).

So she's going to have a baseline blood tests (which we didn't do today because she's sick), then she can go onto medication (as my wife is) to help prevent the seizures, then more blood tests to check for side effects.

Hopefully this is the end of the story.
 11/30/2006 04:23:48 PM · #47
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

85 to 90% probability that it's epilepsy. Of course we had this suspision all along as my wife has it (1995 was her last seisure).


That's a bummer to hear but perhaps good that you have a more concrete issue to work with. Good luck to her and the family!
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