Vasovagal Response - anybody have any exp with?

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

12/20/2005 11:27:07 AM · #1

Just curious, does anybody here have any experience with this?

KaDi

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

12/20/2005 11:30:33 AM · #2

Nope. But if you're Canadian there may be help: Vasovagal Syncope
=)

pidge

Canon EOS-7D Mark II

12/20/2005 11:56:26 AM · #3

This help??

idnic

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

12/20/2005 11:58:12 AM · #4

My daughter has Vasovagal Syncope. She copes well with it (she's 16), knows when she's gonna faint and tries to get to the ground quick. She took medication at one time, but now just sticks to a high salt high water diet and that helps lots.

12/20/2005 11:58:17 AM · #5

All the time. I do fundus photography for an ophthalmology clinic and intravenous fluorescein injections for retinal angiography. I have patients "go out" on me all the time. They also have responses to laser treatments, eye drops, and a host of other things we do here. I see it all the time.

Edit: spelling

Message edited by author 2005-12-20 11:58:53.

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

12/20/2005 11:58:37 AM · #6

I've seen it lots and my father even has such a response to needles. What were you wondering about?

12/20/2005 11:59:51 AM · #7

Awww.... Slippy.... did you faint?

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

12/20/2005 12:14:58 PM · #8

We took my 4 yr old daughter, Shelby (on the right) to the hospital Sunday morning. She passed out after throwing up at home. Then again on the way out the door to the hospital, then once in the car (maybe) without throwing up, then twice again at the hospital.

Nothing else exists when you hold your girl in your arms and the life seems to go out of her.

They did a CT scan & her brain is OK. Chest x-rays are OK, and bloodwork is OK. They kept her overnight. She seems OK now & is going to see the ER pediactric doctor again this afternoon at her office.

I'm officially freaked out. The hospital here is awesome, so that's a bit of a relief.

idnic

Canon EOS-60D

12/20/2005 12:17:04 PM · #9

Skip, my daughter has been fainting regularly (6 or 8 times a year) since she was 5. With her its usually a stress reaction, but not always. We have seen many doctors over the years and they all say "she's okay and likely she'll outgrow it".... we're still waiting! lol

12/20/2005 12:21:39 PM · #10

Geesh Slippy... sorry to hear that. I bet that is pretty scary to go through. Sounds like a classic vasovagal response to me. Although they're pretty scary if you aren't accustomed to seeing them, they are pretty harmless, and people bounce back pretty quickly from them.

**DISCLAIMER** I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV. This is not medical advice, simply words of encouragement based on my personal experiences. My comments are from personal experience of dealing with vasovagal reactions on a pretty regular basis.

12/20/2005 12:21:45 PM · #11

Oh man, Cindi! That's good to know, though. Maybe she'll still 'grow out of it', maybe puberty has to finish?
:-/

Olympus 40-150mm f/3.5-4.5 Zuiko Digital

12/20/2005 12:22:44 PM · #12

Thanks Lee.

Ombra_foto

Olympus E-300 EVOLT

12/20/2005 12:27:00 PM · #13

My son went through similar times having fever seizures.
Scares the heck out of you...

He outgrew them around the age of six.
He's the size of a small ox now, and almost twice as smart.

It's not as shocking after you know what to expect and what to do.

12/20/2005 12:31:23 PM · #14

On a lighter note, it's so common in my line of work, most of us have taken to taping an ammonia capsule to the side of our cameras for "quick reaction" timing!

:-)

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

12/20/2005 12:34:25 PM · #15

Hope she feels better Slippy. Vasovagal reactions are common. Good to hear the CT is ok. I would say that such a reaction should be preceeded by a provoking stimulus. Vomiting can definitely do it. I didn't catch the stimulus for the other events though. But I bet if somebody witnessed it in the ER and felt confident it was vasovagal, then it's likely that. Even if they were Canadian...(ha, I can say that, cuz I'm one myself...)

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 12-24mm f/4.0G IF-ED

12/20/2005 12:44:25 PM · #16

She threw up just before she passed out each time, except in the car, but that was so quick I'm not sure she really lost consciuosness that time. The other times she was out from between 7 & 40 seconds.

She was full of beans Sunday evening, yesterday, and today. She's not in school today, but will probably still take part in the Christmas concert tonight. Hopefully I'll get a decent seat for some pics, but these things at her school are typically a full house & parents fight like cats & dogs for seats.

jbsmithana

Nikon D300

12/20/2005 12:51:46 PM · #17

For what it is worth slippy I worked in the fire service for 30 years, much of it on medical units, and we saw it quite a bit in both young and old. Very common and associated with just such events as vomiting. Older people tend to trigger when "bearing down", as in the bathroom.

Although very scary for those around in is normally pretty harmless. Smart to always get it checked out just to be sure nothing else is going on.

Good luck with your daughter and stop feeding her such sickening food!

Message edited by author 2005-12-20 12:53:31.

Nuno

Nikon D700

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

12/20/2005 01:00:07 PM · #18

Vasovagal reactions can happen for many reasons. It can be despolected by an event or an act. I remember a patient that fainted when was aplying force, including going to the bathroom.

It's pretty harmless unless can present harmfull to the person sufferring from it. For example if a person faints/ passes out when driving / riding a bike, or can beat with the head if nobothy's there to cacth the person when passing out.

My advice is to go to a neurologist or a cardiologist. She should do a specific test that is called a "Tilt" test. It tests the vagal responsivness of the person and can encounter the reason that makes the fainthness. Because if the periods of the fainthness enlarge or put the person in to danger it might have to do some treatment. Implanting a pacemaker in the cases that the cardica frequence is the responsible for the fainthness might heal the person and will no longer suffer from it.

I must say that I'm not a doctor, but I'm a health care technicial (cardiopneumology - about the samu you call in US the physician assistant). I've seen a lot of cases like this also, and it might also be a transitory period that will pass.

Hope it helped.

Spork99

OM System OM-1

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

12/20/2005 01:38:26 PM · #19

I know how scary it can be when something is wrong with your child and no one seems to know exactly what's going on.

I hope that your daughter is well.

longlivenyhc

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX DG Macro for Canon

12/20/2005 01:49:10 PM · #20

i pass out whenever i see alot of blood. either mine or someone elses. its a slow faint, but i know its coming, loss of hearing, tunnel vision. is this vasogal response? or something else?

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Pentax

12/20/2005 01:51:13 PM · #21

Originally posted by longlivenyhc:

i pass out whenever i see alot of blood. either mine or someone elses. its a slow faint, but i know its coming, loss of hearing, tunnel vision. is this vasogal response? or something else?

Sounds like a phobia. Capture and enter it. ;-)

Artyste

Sony Ericsson W810i

12/20/2005 01:51:35 PM · #22

I used to have fainting spells all the time when I was younger. I learned after a time to recognize it coming on and sit down or lay down on the floor as quick as I could... but sometimes I didn't even have time.

Now, however, I think I know what I was suffering from, and it seems my niece is suffering from the same thing.. so I'm sending the link off to my sister. Thanks!

longlivenyhc

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX DG Macro for Canon

12/20/2005 01:53:11 PM · #23

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by longlivenyhc:
i pass out whenever i see alot of blood. either mine or someone elses. its a slow faint, but i know its coming, loss of hearing, tunnel vision. is this vasogal response? or something else?

Sounds like a phobia. Capture and enter it. ;-)

strange that fake blood doesnt bother me, like bloody gorey movies and the such.

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II