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12/18/2005 04:31:05 PM · #26

Originally posted by laurielblack:

NONE of their antlers look the same...they're not the same length, same arc, or anything of the sort. There always has to be someone who takes pride in raining on other people's parades...pathetic.

They are identical in every way. The only difference is that the ten point on the far left is flipped horizontally Other then that the configuration of evrey ten point is the same. As someone who spends most of my waking hours in the woods and swamps I can say that seeing four bucks in one place is not all that rare. Seeing four ten points in one place is very rare. In fact I have never met anyone who has. Seeing four ten points with the exact same configuration is Photoshop.

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

12/18/2005 04:34:26 PM · #27

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by laurielblack:
NONE of their antlers look the same...they're not the same length, same arc, or anything of the sort. There always has to be someone who takes pride in raining on other people's parades...pathetic.

They are identical in every way. The only difference is that the ten point on the far left is flipped horizontally Other then that the configuration of evrey ten point is the same. As someone who spends most of my waking hours in the woods and swamps I can say that seeing four bucks in one place is not all that rare. Seeing four ten points in one place is very rare. In fact I have never met anyone who has. Seeing four ten points with the exact same configuration is Photoshop.

how can I prove it to you then? If you want me to I will.

edit: check out another shot then?

Message edited by author 2005-12-18 16:36:13.

dpdave

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III

12/18/2005 04:34:46 PM · #28

Alex, if you did photoshop that together, you can take Scott Kelby's place anytime.
Really, stunning stuff.

Artyste

Sony Ericsson W810i

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Pentax

12/18/2005 04:35:47 PM · #29

Originally posted by alexsaberi:

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by laurielblack:
NONE of their antlers look the same...they're not the same length, same arc, or anything of the sort. There always has to be someone who takes pride in raining on other people's parades...pathetic.

They are identical in every way. The only difference is that the ten point on the far left is flipped horizontally Other then that the configuration of evrey ten point is the same. As someone who spends most of my waking hours in the woods and swamps I can say that seeing four bucks in one place is not all that rare. Seeing four ten points in one place is very rare. In fact I have never met anyone who has. Seeing four ten points with the exact same configuration is Photoshop.

how can I prove it to you then? If you want me to I will

Link to the original with exif data intact.. it's pretty simple.

12/18/2005 04:36:57 PM · #30

Why should he have to do that for anyone? Would you post your original?

12/18/2005 04:37:04 PM · #31

Originally posted by Artyste:

Originally posted by alexsaberi:

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by laurielblack:
NONE of their antlers look the same...they're not the same length, same arc, or anything of the sort. There always has to be someone who takes pride in raining on other people's parades...pathetic.

They are identical in every way. The only difference is that the ten point on the far left is flipped horizontally Other then that the configuration of evrey ten point is the same. As someone who spends most of my waking hours in the woods and swamps I can say that seeing four bucks in one place is not all that rare. Seeing four ten points in one place is very rare. In fact I have never met anyone who has. Seeing four ten points with the exact same configuration is Photoshop.

how can I prove it to you then? If you want me to I will

Link to the original with exif data intact.. it's pretty simple.

Not good enough. RAW file.

12/18/2005 04:37:39 PM · #32

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Why should he have to do that for anyone? Would you post your original?

He doesn't have to do anything. He asked to.

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Pentax

12/18/2005 04:40:07 PM · #33

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Why should he have to do that for anyone? Would you post your original?

He doesn't have to do anything. He asked to.

He asked how to prove it. Not how to get it easily stolen.

Artyste

Sony Ericsson W810i

12/18/2005 04:40:08 PM · #34

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Why should he have to do that for anyone? Would you post your original?

Hey, I'm on his side.. I'd just like to see it put to rest.

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Pentax

12/18/2005 04:41:57 PM · #35

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Why should he have to do that for anyone? Would you post your original?

He doesn't have to do anything. He asked to.

He asked how to prove it. Not how to get it easily stolen.

So give it to Site Council

Artyste

Sony Ericsson W810i

12/18/2005 04:41:57 PM · #36

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by Artyste:

Originally posted by alexsaberi:

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by laurielblack:
NONE of their antlers look the same...they're not the same length, same arc, or anything of the sort. There always has to be someone who takes pride in raining on other people's parades...pathetic.

They are identical in every way. The only difference is that the ten point on the far left is flipped horizontally Other then that the configuration of evrey ten point is the same. As someone who spends most of my waking hours in the woods and swamps I can say that seeing four bucks in one place is not all that rare. Seeing four ten points in one place is very rare. In fact I have never met anyone who has. Seeing four ten points with the exact same configuration is Photoshop.

how can I prove it to you then? If you want me to I will

Link to the original with exif data intact.. it's pretty simple.

Not good enough. RAW file.

If the Exif info is there, it doesn't matter if it's an original JPG or RAW file. Now you're just being anal.

12/18/2005 04:43:06 PM · #37

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Why should he have to do that for anyone? Would you post your original?

He doesn't have to do anything. He asked to.

He asked how to prove it. Not how to get it easily stolen.

So give it to Site Council

Why are you so interested? What's it to you?

12/18/2005 04:45:12 PM · #38

Originally posted by Artyste:

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by Artyste:

Originally posted by alexsaberi:

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by laurielblack:
NONE of their antlers look the same...they're not the same length, same arc, or anything of the sort. There always has to be someone who takes pride in raining on other people's parades...pathetic.

They are identical in every way. The only difference is that the ten point on the far left is flipped horizontally Other then that the configuration of evrey ten point is the same. As someone who spends most of my waking hours in the woods and swamps I can say that seeing four bucks in one place is not all that rare. Seeing four ten points in one place is very rare. In fact I have never met anyone who has. Seeing four ten points with the exact same configuration is Photoshop.

how can I prove it to you then? If you want me to I will

Link to the original with exif data intact.. it's pretty simple.

Not good enough. RAW file.

If the Exif info is there, it doesn't matter if it's an original JPG or RAW file. Now you're just being anal.

Am I? Do you have any idea how easy it is to fake exif files? You can fake a RAW file too, but not as easily. Hey, If i am wrong I will apologize on bended knee and bow down to his mastery of wildlife photography.

TLL061

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

12/18/2005 04:47:44 PM · #39

you should have saved that for the best of 05 challenge

12/18/2005 04:49:09 PM · #40

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Why should he have to do that for anyone? Would you post your original?

He doesn't have to do anything. He asked to.

He asked how to prove it. Not how to get it easily stolen.

So give it to Site Council

Why are you so interested? What's it to you?

The man is presenting something here as authentic and I am calling that. He could have just blown my comments off, but he says he wants to prove it. Let him. He presented these images in a public photography forum. That leaves them open to a bit more then just adoration. If they had been entered in a challenge he would definatly had to authenticate them.

12/18/2005 04:57:22 PM · #41

And by the way, great shots in either case.

12/18/2005 04:59:08 PM · #42

so how does site council check them. Who do I send it to etc etc. Do they care? :-)

TLL061

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

12/18/2005 05:00:55 PM · #43

I don't think it is nessary , I take a man at his word. great job

Message edited by author 2005-12-18 17:01:17.

12/18/2005 05:01:49 PM · #44

Originally posted by alexsaberi:

so how does site council check them. Who do I send it to etc etc. Do they care? :-)

Just PM one of them and ask them if they'd be willing to settle this for you. They don't usually care about images posted outside challenges.

12/18/2005 05:03:43 PM · #45

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by alexsaberi:
so how does site council check them. Who do I send it to etc etc. Do they care? :-)

Just PM one of them and ask them if they'd be willing to settle this for you. They don't usually care about images posted outside challenges.

will do. In the meantime check the 100% version on the stags.

Nikon MF 180mm f/2.8 ED AIS

12/18/2005 05:08:11 PM · #46

Originally posted by alexsaberi:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by alexsaberi:
so how does site council check them. Who do I send it to etc etc. Do they care? :-)

Just PM one of them and ask them if they'd be willing to settle this for you. They don't usually care about images posted outside challenges.

will do. In the meantime check the 100% version on the stags.

do the same with the two on the right.

mcmurma

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

12/18/2005 05:09:00 PM · #47

I believe the images are real simply because they were taken in a park. I'm not familiar with the parks in England, per se, but here in Arkansas deer are way overpopulated in our local city parks.

I'll grant that such group of antlers is rare, never seen so many at one time, but I have no doubt that it's simply because I don't spend enough time in the park:) If I lived next to one, maybe I would have.

Nikon MF 180mm f/2.8 ED AIS

12/18/2005 05:12:35 PM · #48

oh by the way there were around 12-15 stags in total fighting that morning in the woods.

mcmurma

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

12/18/2005 05:16:12 PM · #49

Ahh, what a nice park for finding such scenes.

//www.deer-uk.com/richmond_park.htm

Cool shots. I'd love to visit some time.