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Sigma 15mm f/2.8 EX Diagonal Fisheye for Nikon

12/03/2005 06:39:00 PM · #1

I have my ISO settings set at 1600 for shooting sports actions at night.

I was told by another photographer that I need to bump my ISO settings up to at least 6400 to avoid blurring.

Is there a way to bump the ISO setting to this value?

I checked my menu and the maximum is 1600, but I was \told that this could be mulitiplied at get to the 6400 settings.

muckpond

Nikon D200

12/03/2005 06:43:33 PM · #2

the max ISO for the d70/d70s is 1600. i don't know what the other person is trying to tell you.

if you are shooting sports action at night, you should be ok with 1600 ISO, but it depends on the situation. set your cam to ISO 1600 and the mode dial to aperture mode (A). set the aperture to the highest value (which is the lowest number). what is the shutter speed?

you might get some blurring, but a higher ISO on the d70s would make the photos almost unusable. 1600 is pretty noisy by itself.

what are you trying to shoot? in what environment?

philup

Canon EOS-5D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

12/03/2005 06:45:50 PM · #3

Maybe the guy was using a Canon..my 20d has a ISO expansion. Its called H...3200 ISO.

12/03/2005 06:46:34 PM · #4

I'm trying to shoot local football games in an outside High School stadium setting.

Shutter speed is set to 1/30

Sigma 15mm f/2.8 EX Diagonal Fisheye for Nikon

12/03/2005 06:47:23 PM · #5

Originally posted by philup:

Maybe the guy was using a Canon..my 20d has a ISO expansion. Its called H...3200 ISO.

He is using a Nikon D-1 camera

muckpond

Nikon D200

12/03/2005 06:48:00 PM · #6

it's going to be tough unless you have a long, fast lens that will allow your aperture to open up pretty far. are you just using the kit lens? that probably won't do.

the d70 wasn't built to do a great deal in the dark.

12/03/2005 06:48:14 PM · #7

1/30 s is too slow for sports. There should be a guide for exposure while looking through your viewfinder and having the shutter button half pressed. The indicator should be in the middle for proper exposure.

12/03/2005 06:48:15 PM · #8

If you dial -2 EV when @ ISO 1600 your effectively getting an ISO6400 exposure once you add EV during postprocessing.

You'd be far better off setting auto sensitivity to get a lower ISO when the scene allows it.

cheers,
bazz.

12/03/2005 06:49:16 PM · #9

Originally posted by muckpond:

I'm using one of the following:
Nikon 70-300MM lense 3.5-5.6
Sigman 70-200MM lense 2.8

12/03/2005 06:50:26 PM · #10

Originally posted by sir_bazz:

What is EV???

Sigma 15mm f/2.8 EX Diagonal Fisheye for Nikon

12/03/2005 06:51:09 PM · #11

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

The max I can use is 1/60...would this help???

muckpond

Nikon D200

12/03/2005 06:52:30 PM · #12

Originally posted by raiderboz:

Sigman 70-200MM lense 2.8

this is going to be your best bet. the 2.8 is the maximum aperture. the smaller that number, the bigger the aperture. the bigger the aperture, the faster your shutter speed can be. the faster the shutter speed, the less blur there is.

and the hip bone's connected to the leg bone. and the leg bone's connected to the knee bone.

it's all interrelated. but, in any case, 1/30 is still pretty slow for a lot of things. 'specially if you are handholding it.

12/03/2005 06:55:29 PM · #13

Originally posted by raiderboz:

What is EV???

Exposure Compensation.

The D70 will allow up to -5EV which tells the camera to underexpose by 5 stops.

With -2 EV the camera will underexpose the shot by 2 stops by cutting the shutter speed by 3/4.

The shot will be dark but you then correct the light levels in post processing.

It's a trick to get faster shutter speeds but the trade off is more noise.

cheers,
bazz.

12/03/2005 06:59:22 PM · #14

Originally posted by raiderboz:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
1/30 s is too slow for sports. There should be a guide for exposure while looking through your viewfinder and having the shutter button half pressed. The indicator should be in the middle for proper exposure.

The max I can use is 1/60...would this help???

Your camera has a lot faster shutter speed than 1/60. Are you trying to use flash?

12/03/2005 07:03:46 PM · #15

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by raiderboz:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
1/30 s is too slow for sports. There should be a guide for exposure while looking through your viewfinder and having the shutter button half pressed. The indicator should be in the middle for proper exposure.

The max I can use is 1/60...would this help???

Your camera has a lot faster shutter speed than 1/60. Are you trying to use flash?

I checked my settings and have the following under the shutter speed option on the CSM Menu:

1/60
1/30
1/15
1/8
1/4
1/2
1"
2"
4"
8"
15"
30"

Flash tends to make the photo draker and most coaches frown on me using it.

12/03/2005 07:06:16 PM · #16

Unless the players are standing still 1/60 s is way too slow. You need at least 1/250 or 1/500 to do stop action. 1/60 may work if you're panning but you'll probably still get blur.

12/03/2005 07:09:34 PM · #17

The fastest shutter speed on that camera is 1/8000 s. The max you get at any one time probably depends on the shooting mode. You may have to shoot in shutter priority or manual to get the shutter speed you need.

//www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Nikon/nikon_d70s.asp

If you can locate the manual, I suggest reading about all the different modes and the limitations of each. This is usually summarized at the back in a chart for quick reference.

Message edited by author 2005-12-03 19:13:51.

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED

12/03/2005 07:17:55 PM · #18

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Thanks for the link...but I checked all the settings and 1/60 is the max on all of them :(

Tycho

Nikon D70

12/03/2005 07:21:43 PM · #19

Originally posted by raiderboz:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
The fastest shutter speed on that camera is 1/8000 s. The max you get at any one time probably depends on the shooting mode. You may have to shoot in shutter priority or manual to get the shutter speed you need.

//www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Nikon/nikon_d70s.asp

If you can locate the manual, I suggest reading about all the different modes and the limitations of each. This is usually summarized at the back in a chart for quick reference.

Thanks for the link...but I checked all the settings and 1/60 is the max on all of them :(

That setting is to set the slowest possible shutter speed when using a flash in aperture priority and when the flash mode is not set to slow sync. Use the command dial in manual or shutter speed priority modes to set a shutter speed that provides a good exposure.

Prof_Fate

12/03/2005 07:33:29 PM · #20

Two issues not mentioned here are needing addressed:

Camera shake - to shoot at 200mm you will need a tripod or a shutter speed of 1/300 or better. (1/focal length and take into account the 1.5x aps multiplier). Or use a VR lens.

the action/speed of the sport. if the players are moving 1/30 is toooo slow and will give you blurry people. Probably can't tell as 1/30 is WAY WAY WAY to slow to be shooting 1/200 lens handheld or even braced unless you are someone specially enabled with super powers.

You'll need a shutter speed of 1/250 and try the highest ISO you got and largest ap and cross your fingers.

Now if you are using flash you have to stay at or preferably below the sunc (1/250 on your camera i believe). BUT your flash only has an effective range of X feet. If you are too far away (very likely in a football stadium) then flash will not fix your problem.

Message edited by author 2005-12-03 19:34:08.

12/03/2005 07:37:31 PM · #21

Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

Problem is that the max I have is 1/60.

The specs say it can go to 1/8000 but I don't know how to increase it to this setting.

12/03/2005 07:45:12 PM · #22

Originally posted by raiderboz:

Problem is that the max I have is 1/60.

The specs say it can go to 1/8000 but I don't know how to increase it to this setting.

Set your camera to S on the dial on top left.

Set your shutter speed with thumb wheel on the right.

bazz.

12/03/2005 07:48:14 PM · #23

Originally posted by sir_bazz:

Originally posted by raiderboz:

Problem is that the max I have is 1/60.

The specs say it can go to 1/8000 but I don't know how to increase it to this setting.

Set your camera to S on the dial on top left.

Set your shutter speed with thumb wheel on the right.

bazz.

OK just made those settings an the ISO to 8000 and get nothing but black photos

12/03/2005 08:01:07 PM · #24

Thats the trade off :)

Remember that test shot you took earlier at 1/60 of a second ?

Well with all other settings being equal you'd need 7 times as much light to get the same exposure.

Hope this helps,
bazz.