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08/09/2002 04:10:26 PM · #1 |
Are voting comments really a good forum for political commentary? (left vague on purpose...)
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08/09/2002 04:20:32 PM · #2 |
I don't think they should be, but unfortunately I've seen it done-- like the comments left on a lot of submissions in the Corporate Challenge that had nothing at all to do with the photo being commented on.
I have also seen some shots where it seems the photographer was almost begging to be engaged in a political debate, and I people happily obliged.
But to leave political comments on a photo with little or no political spin is pretty tacky and moronic, if you ask me.
* This message has been edited by the author on 8/9/2002 4:22:49 PM. |
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08/09/2002 04:24:34 PM · #3 |
If your photo could generate a political comment, it will blind some viewers to the photo itself... they get stuck on some offbeat hidden nazi facist meaning that they think you were trying to imply :)
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08/09/2002 04:50:51 PM · #4 |
I tend to randomly comment on photos if I feel the need, and would make a political comment, again, if i feel it was warranted.
Such comment would most likely not affect my score, though. |
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08/09/2002 04:52:41 PM · #5 |
I'll be blunt. Edited for space and name considerations, but ripped straight from the user's profile page. Although, for reasons unknown to me, the comment no longer appears under my photo's comments. Curious........
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* This message has been edited by the author on 8/9/2002 4:52:45 PM.
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08/09/2002 05:26:02 PM · #6 |
Swash,
Yeah, that was one of the commenters I was referring to. He (or she) pretty much posted the same comment to every user last week, and I found it quite shameless (and annoying).
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08/09/2002 05:50:41 PM · #7 |
Yeah, I got it and suspected lots of other people got it, too. It was just SPAM to me and annoying.
BTW, the author of the comment could overcome the detrImental effects of poor spelling by investing in a dictionary or doing a spellcheck before espousing his/her views. |
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08/09/2002 05:57:00 PM · #8 |
These comments are not appropriate and have been dealt with. The reason they are not showing up on the photos is because they were removed.
-Terry
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08/09/2002 06:36:35 PM · #9 |
Thanks for the update, Terry. I couldn't figure out how the user could have removed them. The person also used the dreaded "f" word to somebody, I forget whom. When did common courtesy stop being common?
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08/09/2002 08:16:06 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Swashbuckler: Thanks for the update, Terry. I couldn't figure out how the user could have removed them. The person also used the dreaded "f" word to somebody, I forget whom. When did common courtesy stop being common?
Swashbuckler, Does that mean that the "F" stops here. Pun you get it "F" STOPS.
Autool |
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08/09/2002 09:23:02 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by autool: Originally posted by Swashbuckler: [i]Thanks for the update, Terry. I couldn't figure out how the user could have removed them. The person also used the dreaded "f" word to somebody, I forget whom. When did common courtesy stop being common?
Swashbuckler, Does that mean that the "F" stops here. Pun you get it "F" STOPS.
Autool[/i]
I am laughing heartily about this reply :) From now on, only discussions of Auto Mode are allowed! |
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08/09/2002 09:52:48 PM · #12 |
Spam is annoying and unnecessary, but I think if your image is powerful enough to get people to think and analyse it in a political way, it's a great achievement! There have been a few that struck me that way in some challenges, eg. the "Basket Case" one in the "City Life" challenge, and the "And Justice for All" photo with the American flag and the plane (I forget which challenge that was). I rated them both very highly because they made me think, even if my comments on both are a little bit cranky. |
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08/09/2002 10:01:55 PM · #13 |
cranky comments on pictures that make you think are okay, I think. :-) The ones this thread started over were more than cranky. They were just, well, out there. Apparently, some guy had a definite political opinion (which is fine) and saw this challenge as an opportunity to spread it. I read his comments on several pics and thought huh?????? He is entitled to his opinion, and even his right to talk about it, but i think it would have been more effective in the right forum or context. I don't think he helped his case/cause at all.
My buck 75.
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08/10/2002 03:05:17 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by lisae: Spam is annoying and unnecessary, but I think if your image is powerful enough to get people to think and analyse it in a political way, it's a great achievement! There have been a few that struck me that way in some challenges, eg. the "Basket Case" one in the "City Life" challenge, and the "And Justice for All" photo with the American flag and the plane (I forget which challenge that was). I rated them both very highly because they made me think, even if my comments on both are a little bit cranky.
Thanks Lisae |
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08/10/2002 03:54:49 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by Swashbuckler: I'll be blunt. Edited for space and name considerations, but ripped straight from the user's profile page. Although, for reasons unknown to me, the comment no longer appears under my photo's comments. Curious........
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My friend wrote that he got kicked off till august, he's pissed sorry everyone thought it was spam, as if though he was accually trying to sell something, he wasn't. If anyone took the time to see what it was you would know that it was the news that dosen't hit mainstream.
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08/10/2002 04:12:51 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by lisae: Spam is annoying and unnecessary, but I think if your image is powerful enough to get people to think and analyse it in a political way, it's a great achievement! There have been a few that struck me that way in some challenges, eg. the "Basket Case" one in the "City Life" challenge, and the "And Justice for All" photo with the American flag and the plane (I forget which challenge that was). I rated them both very highly because they made me think, even if my comments on both are a little bit cranky.
Lisae, "And Justice for All" was taken by my daughter, who happens to be one of the most patriotic people I know! While we realize that not every dpchallenger is American, it was still a bit shocking to see her recieve comments like, "I hate America", and being accused of using the flag and plane as a ploy to get votes! Knowing how she went about taking her picture for the From the Ground Up challenge, I would wager a bet that her full intent was to show that America's flag (symbol of liberty) and America's planes were still flying, after a horrific blow. Needless to say, I'm proud of her, her thought provoking picture, and her patriotism.
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08/10/2002 04:16:13 AM · #17 |
I personally could never be proud of nationalism. But if people have a love for there country go ahead thats your choice. Isn't it funny how someone complains about political comments and they make a thread that goes on about the same thing they were complaining about? |
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08/10/2002 04:18:01 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler: If your photo could generate a political comment, it will blind some viewers to the photo itself... they get stuck on some offbeat hidden nazi facist meaning that they think you were trying to imply :)
Could you point out an example? |
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08/10/2002 07:29:50 AM · #19 |
cameo - The American flag is a very, very complicated symbol to non-Americans. A lot of flag images get posted here, and I don't think many people consider the way they are read by people who aren't American so don't feel patriotic when they see it. I have some friends from the UK and other places, and I've talked about it with them, but it's hard to really pin down how it makes us all feel. I've never seen the flag of any other country used in the way the American flag is. It's very hard for most of us to understand what the flag means to Americans, because we don't feel that way about our own. It's odd though, when I was in San Antonio a few weeks ago I found myself standing underneath a really big flag, one of those ones they generally have at car dealerships (which is SO WEIRD), and I took a photo of it just to see how it made me feel :). I've really tried to understand it, but I can't!
Reuben and I actually talked about my comment on the "And Justice For All" photo, and it wasn't until he thought about how the title sounds to those of us who have never heard the Pledge of Allegiance (or at least aren't very familiar with it) that he started to understand. Imagine how that title sounds out of context! It's all very propagandistic. But I still say that a photo that provokes a reaction should be appreciated in that respect. |
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08/10/2002 10:23:06 AM · #20 |
Anarchos, I think that what we are disturbed about is the spamlike and repititious comments of your friend in inappropriate places on the site. If he wants to make a point, make it a visual one in a photo entry and perhaps go into detail in his description of the photo. He has a right just as cameo's daughter does to photograph something that has meaning for him.
For some reason, I did not see his comment on my entry at all. If I had, I would have been ticked off. I don't want to waste my time reading about someone else's political agenda when I was expecting to read about how great or bad my entry was. |
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