Disqualified and thanking the Site Council

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM for Nikon

11/20/2005 07:37:03 PM · #1

My "Triptych" photo, "Macaw Feather Fans" was disqualified today, and rightly so. I used one of my three images to create the border and in doing so, I duplicated one of the images. We all have times when we aren't thinking - mine was public. Of course there was no intent to not play by the rules, I was just thinking of it as a border and therefore not an issue. One of the first commenters brought it to my attention as to what I had done. Not the best way to wake up - but they were right.

What came next surprised me, and gave me new appreciation for the Site Council and their wishes to be completely fair. I turned in my validation information last Monday - today it was disqualified. Since most DQ's take a couple of days, I'm lead to believe that they had many thoughtful discussions about when and where the line is crossed.

"When does a border become a major element? If our programs generate fancy frames, are they more or less created than duplicating my image had been? If a triptych can be made from 1 to 3 images, did the person who duplicated a single image 3 times break the duplication rule or did the special rule on this challenge imply that it was okay?" Although I wasn't there, I do beleive that the time line and other comments made in the forums indicate that a careful, deliberate thought process has taken place.

Thank you, Site Council. Thank you, very publicly. Thanks you for taking time to be fair and consider all angles of the rules even when I admitted up front that I had broken a rule. You made the right decision and I appreciate that you did.

Just be warned, it's the last time I forget to think ;-) The next time you see my validation info will be for a ribbon!

ShaneBlake

Nikon D7100

11/20/2005 07:51:18 PM · #2

I'm sorry about your DQ and your temporary "duh" moment... I really liked your photos, but did expect to see it get a DQ for the border...

I'm even more impressed that you're taking like a man... er, woman... and praising the SC for being fair... they get more flack than they should...

way to go rebecca... way to go.

BrennanOB

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

11/20/2005 07:53:17 PM · #3

Graciously said. I remember this shot and it was indeed a beauty, and I belive not, alone in using an image as a backround. Good luck on the next one.

GentleSoul

Canon EOS-30D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

11/20/2005 08:01:53 PM · #4

Rebecca, I remember your shot - it was quite beautiful. I, too, thought at the time that it might get disqualified for the border, but I didn't want to be the one to click the button to bring it in to be questioned.

Anyway, please know that even though it didn't meet the rules of the challenge, it is certainly a top pick in my eyes. I'm sure we will be seeing you receiving another ribbon some day, and by the quality of the work you present, I'd say that day is not too far away. Best of luck to you!

-Liz

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

11/20/2005 08:10:40 PM · #5

This is the image my husband wanted me to submit. I think I'll listen to him a bit more carefully next time.

BTW - Anyone else had any experiences of the Site Council going above and beyond? Tell us about them.

mesmeraj

11/20/2005 08:13:30 PM · #6

that you Rebecca, for being gracious in defeat.
We definately all have those moments.
It never even occured to me when commenting on your image that it might have crossed the defined rules. So you are not alone in that boat.

edit to reply to your post while i was posting.
Oh yes. Terry (club juggler) has put up with all kinds of stupidness from me. Muckpond, Ursula and i think Kirbic too have been known to correct my forum brain farts. And i know it took every ounce of patiences they had to translate the the babble they recieved for my garbage validation.

Message edited by author 2005-11-20 20:17:28.

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

11/20/2005 09:02:27 PM · #7

Originally posted by rjkstesch:

What came next surprised me, and gave me new appreciation for the Site Council and their wishes to be completely fair. I turned in my validation information last Monday - today it was disqualified. Since most DQ's take a couple of days, I'm lead to believe that they had many thoughtful discussions about when and where the line is crossed.

You have no idea. ;)

It was an awesome shot (still is obviously) and we do hate to dq pictures (contrary to some's belief).

Thank you for your graciousness (is that a word) and understanding.

karmat

alfresco

11/20/2005 09:15:45 PM · #8

confused (and dumb). Could you show what you did so that others don't do something similar?

I'm slow tonight, sorry. :(

Sorry for the dq.

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II

11/20/2005 09:27:36 PM · #9

Originally posted by alfresco:

confused (and dumb). Could you show what you did so that others don't do something similar?

I used the main photo to create the border. Duplication of a major element. However, because of the Triptych challenge and ability to use 1 to 3 images, it opened up some major questions.

MattO

Nikon D4

11/20/2005 10:18:17 PM · #10

There was another photo in this challenge, that I wondered about it had 3 photos and one as the background. Maybe I am confusing yours with it, but I dont think so. I have searched through all of my previous votes and cant find it now. Was there more then one that got DQ'ed for this reason, or am I losing my mind thinking there was another photo? BTW This was an awesome challenge with great photos in it. Was tough for me to vote and it scored really high from me.

MattO

Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS

11/20/2005 10:34:08 PM · #11

Originally posted by MattO:

There were 332 photos earlier this week. Now there's 229. Mine doesn't appear to be the only one DQ'd. I think I know which one you're refering to and I haven't seen it for a few days.

Canon EOS-60D

11/20/2005 10:36:59 PM · #12

Originally posted by rjkstesch:

There were 332 photos earlier this week. Now there's 229.

EEEEEEEEK! 103 DQ's this week??? Yikes!

MattO

Nikon D4

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II

11/20/2005 10:39:20 PM · #13

[/quote]
There were 332 photos earlier this week. Now there's 229. Mine doesn't appear to be the only one DQ'd. I think I know which one you're refering to and I haven't seen it for a few days. [/quote]

WOW you know now that you mention it, I remember voting on more the 229 photos in this challenge. And I'm glad to know that I am not losing my mind!

MattO

crabappl3

11/20/2005 10:44:15 PM · #14

Originally posted by laurielblack:

Originally posted by rjkstesch:

There were 332 photos earlier this week. Now there's 229.

EEEEEEEEK! 103 DQ's this week??? Yikes!

OMG Laurie did math!!!!!!

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS

11/20/2005 10:46:35 PM · #15

Originally posted by crabappl3:

OMG Laurie did math!!!!!!

And correctly, I might add.

mesmeraj

11/20/2005 10:59:54 PM · #16

gosh. 103 DQ's.
And they were talking about the SC workload not being that heavy.
Hats off to you guys!!

Canon EOS-20D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

11/20/2005 11:03:12 PM · #17

Haha. There were a few DQs but not quite 103. :)

Thanks for your post, RJ!