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01/12/2003 05:22:14 PM · #26 |
cameo
why was it removed? because it wasn't taken within the last week? if that is the case what's your point? them's the rules |
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01/12/2003 05:31:02 PM · #27 |
You ask where the mods are? Well, I'll put in my 2cents worth. First off, there isn't even a DQ request for a photo with a moon in it. Secondly, the photo that Jimmy requested has been DQed because it in fact wasn't taken within the dates. Jimmy's original post had nothing to do with a moon, it had to do with a concert.
We have not put a disclaimer on this "moon photo" because there is not a DQ request on it in the first place. Also, there is an option that if you want an Admin note, the photographer should send in the email requesting the Admin note.
I'm completely puzzled as to why everyone is getting upset by this. The solution is actually very simple.
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01/12/2003 05:31:04 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by autool:
Originally posted by liltool: I would bet that the administrators looked at the submitted photo and found that the time stamp was legit and didn't waste there time any more than that. |
This whole thread saddens me tremendously! Where are the administrators or moderators? Why hasn't somebody put a disclaimer on this picture yet?
And why does Jimmyn4 and marbo want to go on such a "witch-hunt"? I thought those days were long since past (outside of Salem, MA and Washington,DC). I think these guys have been staring at the moon too much!
If liltool goes, then I'm leaving, too. After all, who knows who the next target will be around here. |
What would you have the moderators do ? We can't prove or disprove the date on pictures. We can express our opinion on if we think an entry is valid or not, based on the rules but we don't have any ability to check with the entrant over the validity of their picture.
In future if you think there is an issue over the validity of your picture, I'd suggest than in general it helps to be proactive and contact the site authors and provide proof over things like time the image was taken etc. There are typically several pictures per week that are taken outwith the correct time period due to mistakes/ wilful cheating/ etc. Unfortunately only Drew & Langdon are in a position to request the proof directly.
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01/12/2003 05:34:38 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by achiral: cameo
why was it removed? because it wasn't taken within the last week? if that is the case what's your point? them's the rules |
My son's picture has NOT been removed, that I know of, as it still appears on my screen! And yes, it was taken on Sunday, Jan 5, within the right time frame for the challenge, so to my knowledge the rules were not broken. It's the only picture with a moon in it that I can see. |
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01/12/2003 05:36:13 PM · #30 |
i am so confused, i almost feel drunk, this thread is insane, i apologize if i offended you cameo |
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01/12/2003 05:37:15 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by cameo:
Originally posted by jimmyn4: With all due respect autool, I have only posted twice(three times now) on this thread. I only wanted to know what the process behind a DQ is. Before posting you should really read all of the remarks. I have no concern over this moon thing or any moon picture. Ever since the photos in question disappeared I have left this thread alone. I only seek fair play. |
jimmyn4, YOU started this thread with an accusation that the picture wasn't legit, even though the challenge is currently running. How fair is that? |
I think maybe you need to go back and read the thread again - He posted that his comments had nothing to do with a picture with the moon in it.
It seems your concern is with that picture - which is not the one that Jimmyn4 was refering to. I'm quite bemused why people seem to be getting so upset about this thread, when it appears many people are reading things into it that have not actually been said at all.
For the record, there is not a picture with a moon in it, in the current challenge, that has been requested for disqualification. If someone would like to request it for disqualification then perhaps we would look in to it. As it is, we do not go and validate every entry, only those that have requested an admin note, or have been recommended for disqualifcation. Once more, there are no pictures up for disqualification with a moon in them, at this time.
Message edited by author 2003-01-12 17:39:14.
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01/12/2003 05:38:32 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by cameo:
Originally posted by jimmyn4: With all due respect autool, I have only posted twice(three times now) on this thread. I only wanted to know what the process behind a DQ is. Before posting you should really read all of the remarks. I have no concern over this moon thing or any moon picture. Ever since the photos in question disappeared I have left this thread alone. I only seek fair play. |
jimmyn4, YOU started this thread with an accusation that the picture wasn't legit, even though the challenge is currently running. How fair is that?
And, yes, I HAVE read all the posts. If you had also, you would see that 20 minutes before you posted the above remarks, I had posted a message telling that I had mistakenly posted under my husband's user name. We have both entered pictures on DPChallenge, as has our adult daughter, two grown sons, daughter-in-law, and granddaughter. Until now, we have enjoyed this site very much, and enjoyed sharing the hobby even more. I'm afraid your starting this thread has spoiled much of that, as our son has had enough and is leaving this site. It is his picture. |
Cameo, I would just like to state that the photo that Jimmy requested for DQ was NOT the moon photo, and Jimmy was totally correct that the photo he requested was not taken within the dates. It was the concert photo, and he knew that the band wasn't on tour during the week of the challenge. It takes us some time to research the DQ requests, therefor he was just wondering what was going on cause the photo was still in the challenge.
We got the proof we needed that the photo wasn't within the submission dates, and DQed the "Stellar" photo.
This whole thread is a total misunderstanding.
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01/12/2003 05:43:19 PM · #33 |
Also as additional, completely side information and nothing to do with the disqualified image, phases of the moon are the same everywhere on the planet - the time zone only impacts the rise/ fall time of the moon - not the visible phase.
However, in the southern hemisphere, everything is 'inverted' but still the same phases are visible at the same time.
Moon Phase is a really good freeware palm pilot application that can calculate rise/set and phase information for any date you like - other good sun calculators are linked there too - very handy when trying to shoot good landscape pictures.
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01/12/2003 05:48:08 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by marbo: I also noticed one that was not taken last week. I think the moon gave it away as it was new moon around that week. |
hbunch and Gordon, the above is why I have reacted as I have. That was the mention of the moon in the picture, and was the second post in this thread, made by marbo.
jimmyn4, if this was not what you were refering to, then I apologize to you. I understood it to mean you were refering to the same picture as marbo.
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01/12/2003 05:50:06 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by jimmyn4: I don't want to be specific but the picture I have in question doesn't have a moon in it. |
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01/12/2003 05:52:32 PM · #36 |
Not to beat this one to death but I would like to thank those of you who read all of this threads posts. Even after someone mentioned the specific image I requested to DQ I left it alone. I am a believer of fair and equal play that is all. |
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01/12/2003 05:54:05 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by cameo:
Originally posted by marbo: I also noticed one that was not taken last week. I think the moon gave it away as it was new moon around that week. |
hbunch and Gordon, the above is why I have reacted as I have. That was the mention of the moon in the picture, and was the second post in this thread, made by marbo.
jimmyn4, if this was not what you were refering to, then I apologize to you. I understood it to mean you were refering to the same picture as marbo. |
no problem sorry for the misunderstanding |
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01/12/2003 05:55:22 PM · #38 |
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01/12/2003 05:56:42 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by justine: Group hug!! |
seriously, only to wait until this same argument starts up again tomorrow for the new challenges
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01/12/2003 06:12:15 PM · #40 |
OK OK it`s all my fault, i didn`t realize it was against the rules to talk about current challenge photos. Won`t happen again.
But i said the photo could be legit anyway. |
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01/12/2003 06:13:30 PM · #41 |
[quote=Gordon]Also as additional, completely side information and nothing to do with the disqualified image, phases of the moon are the same everywhere on the planet - the time zone only impacts the rise/ fall time of the moon - not the visible phase.
However, in the southern hemisphere, everything is 'inverted' but still the same phases are visible at the same time.
Thank You Gordon, for clearing that up. I'm guessing using the North Star for guidance 'down there' would also be a problem?
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01/12/2003 06:15:20 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by David Ey: [quote=Gordon]Also as additional, completely side information and nothing to do with the disqualified image, phases of the moon are the same everywhere on the planet - the time zone only impacts the rise/ fall time of the moon - not the visible phase.
However, in the southern hemisphere, everything is 'inverted' but still the same phases are visible at the same time.
Thank You Gordon, for clearing that up. I'm guessing using the North Star for guidance 'down there' would also be a problem? |
Think the 'southern cross' fills in a similar role to polaris, but not sure, wasn't paying attention the last time I was in Australia.
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01/12/2003 07:33:12 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by liltool: I would bet that the administrators looked at the submitted photo and found that the time stamp was legit and didn't waste there time any more than that.
I feel that at this time I have wasted more time than this entire site deserves. Good luck to all. GOODBYE! |
i take it that it was your photo in question?
i feel i should make my stance clear: i wasn't taking any side, just talking about the moon. personally, i could care less if the picture was taken out of the deadlines slightly. (i can think of an instance or two where i wanted to do that)
the idea behind that rule is so that newish people to photography have a better chance against those with impressive portfolios.
i seriously hope we haven't lost members over this.
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01/12/2003 07:55:07 PM · #44 |
OK--everybody has hugged--soooo
Is the moon upsidedown in the Southern Hemisphere compared to the Northern Hemisphere?? |
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01/12/2003 08:09:49 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by Digipixer: OK--everybody has hugged--soooo
Is the moon upsidedown in the Southern Hemisphere compared to the Northern Hemisphere?? |
Absolutely NOT!!! It is the PEOPLEwho are upside down.
Actually, it is the ANGLE which changes. Project an imaginary line thru the tips of the crescent. If this line looks like it is leaning to the right to you, it would look like it was leaning to the left to someone in the other hemisphere. (Or, just look at in a mirror)
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01/12/2003 08:14:03 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by Digipixer: OK--everybody has hugged--soooo
Is the moon upsidedown in the Southern Hemisphere compared to the Northern Hemisphere?? |
Yes, but it looks sideways at the equator. ;-) The "main in the moon" is all on reference to where you are. Our brain processes images based on reference cues. (Which is why the moon looks smaller when it it high in the sky. No reference for size.) If you stand on the roof of your house and look down the street, does it look different than it does from the front yard? However if you lie on the ground and look at a cloud, and then rotate head to foot and look again, it will look different. When the moon is near the horizon, what seems to be on top in the north, will look like it is on the bottom in the south.
Try this trick... Take an object and hold it in front of you above eye level. Take your other hand and make a horizon at eye level closer than the object is. The closer to the horizon, above or below, the object is, the stronger the relative up and down are.
-alex |
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01/12/2003 09:26:09 PM · #47 |
My goodness, everyone is so serious. Is it a full moon tonight? |
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01/12/2003 10:01:23 PM · #48 |
All I know is this. My work every week is the best I can do for that topic. IF ( and that is a big if ) someone posts an older photo I could care less. My image should stand up even if the other image was taken last week or last year.
The way the voting is set up here it is me against the critics, not me against another image. I never have and never will put an image in for a DQ.
I fear no image... LOL!!!!!
JMO... |
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01/12/2003 10:30:39 PM · #49 |
I will take no image before its time.
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01/12/2003 11:19:11 PM · #50 |
One thing for sure .. it will be a full sun tomorow !!! |
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