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Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

11/11/2005 09:49:41 PM · #1

... to what I meant to do with my "Autumn On Ice" photo.

I was pleased with how well my entry into Transparency II did. This shot

did pretty good, finishing iin the top quartile. When I started this shot, I had imagined the ice being clearer.

After doing some research, I learned a little about what makes ice cloudy. So I tried again ...

I'd be interested in your comments and if you think the reshoot was better? I think I'll keep trying this, to see if I can get even clearer ice.

Thanks everyone,
Richard

Message edited by author 2005-11-11 21:52:40.

faidoi

Pentax K10D

11/11/2005 09:51:53 PM · #2

faidoi

Pentax K10D

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

11/11/2005 09:53:36 PM · #3

is very nice and clean image. Gives viewer the feeling of winter coming.

GentleSoul

Canon EOS-30D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

11/11/2005 09:57:16 PM · #4

The first was good, but I like the second a lot better. I like how it makes the leaves look more "suspended" than "encased". Also, it could be the leaves themselves, but I think the clear ice might bring out the colors more, too.

Curious - how did you get the ice to be clearer?

mesmeraj

11/11/2005 10:08:52 PM · #5

i like the second much more too - and would like to know how to make the ice clearer also ;)

Elaine

Canon EOS R5

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS II USM Lens

11/11/2005 10:15:24 PM · #6

I like the second a lot better (even though I liked the first).

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

11/11/2005 10:24:28 PM · #7

Should I be mean and make you all do some research :)

No, I won't do that. Water has two things that make for cloudy ice.
- Minerals in the water get pushed together as the water freezes. By the time the water around the minerals freezes, the minerals have been pushed together so closely, that the result is the minerals appears in the ice as cloudiness. Answer = Distilled Water
- Air in the water causes bubbles in the water. The more air in the water, the more bubbles. The air gets pushed together in the same way as the minerals. Answer = Boil water for 10 minutes or more.

Minerals and air in lakes and rivers aren't as apparent because the freezing pattern of lakes and rivers is different from the way water freezes in the ice box. In lakes and rivers, the minerals and air are pushed down into the warmer water and washed away. In the freezer, the water freezes from outside in, trapping all the cloudy stuff.

GentleSoul

Canon EOS-30D

11/11/2005 10:43:07 PM · #8

Wow - very interesting! Thanks, Richard.

Watch - we'll now be seeing a whole lot of frozen stuff in challenges for a while... :)

11/11/2005 10:50:31 PM · #9

I can't take the credit ... while the idea sort of just came to me, the more I thought about it, the more I knew I had seen it before. A fellow in Australia, named Graham Weiss, has done several of these and won a few photos of the day with this technique.

Message edited by author 2005-11-11 23:29:22.

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

11/12/2005 10:19:00 AM · #10

Bump for the daytime crowd.

tsheets

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

11/12/2005 11:59:37 AM · #11

The second one is much nicer (but you knew that) :-)

Interesting information, thanks for sharing.

saintaugust

Canon EOS-550D Rebel T2i

11/12/2005 12:27:45 PM · #12

the second one is quite nice. the first appears to have maybe some dog pee at left.

interesting info about cloudiness, and cool that you researched it and went for a reshoot.

did you just put this whole thing into the freezer, or did you go somewhere and pour distilled water on existing ice?

Message edited by author 2005-11-12 12:28:44.