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Tokina AF 12-24mm f/4.0 AT-X Pro DX

10/22/2005 10:00:43 PM · #1

Sad, but these happen just about every week here.
(Edited out links to pics delected from folio)

Message edited by author 2005-11-11 15:18:09.

saintaugust

Canon EOS-550D Rebel T2i

10/22/2005 10:03:04 PM · #2

there must be a bus stop there with a lingerie ad, thats causing people not to pay attention.

Beagleboy

Canon EOS-30D

10/22/2005 10:37:51 PM · #3

Most people can't drive...

10/22/2005 10:46:41 PM · #4

Speed limit is 35mph here, (white truck driving by is the 4-lane street)

yet we can always hear cars flying by, often screeching brakes follow.

This seems to have little effect:

Sad. Wonder how many will have to die at that intersection before something is done.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

10/23/2005 01:51:14 AM · #5

Answer: speed cameras

Though someone will say it's a violation of some right and fight it in court.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

10/23/2005 02:08:41 AM · #6

I drive about two miles to work, and it seems like I see an average of 3 people run a red light in that span more days than not.

I want to mount a camera on the car which I can trigger from the steering wheel and start taking pictures of them.

Olyuzi

Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX7

Panasonic Lumix G 14mm F2.5 ASPH

10/23/2005 02:13:13 AM · #7

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Answer: speed cameras

Though someone will say it's a violation of some right and fight it in court.

Cameras won't do a darn thing because no points get taken off from your license since the cameras can not prove that you were driving the car at the time of the infraction.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24, S24+, S24 Ultra

Sony Vario-Tessar T* FE 24-70mm f/4 ZA OSS

10/23/2005 02:14:31 AM · #8

I know East Grand in Escondido well. Always has had a reputation as a "raceway", going back decades and decades, if I recall correctly.

R.

Panasonic Lumix G 14mm F2.5 ASPH

10/23/2005 02:19:38 AM · #9

Originally posted by Olyuzi:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Answer: speed cameras

Though someone will say it's a violation of some right and fight it in court.

Cameras won't do a darn thing because no points get taken off from your license since the cameras can not prove that you were driving the car at the time of the infraction.

Getting hit in the pocket book works far better than just a few points.

Olyuzi

Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX7

10/23/2005 02:30:35 AM · #10

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by Olyuzi:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Answer: speed cameras

Though someone will say it's a violation of some right and fight it in court.

Cameras won't do a darn thing because no points get taken off from your license since the cameras can not prove that you were driving the car at the time of the infraction.

Getting hit in the pocket book works far better than just a few points.

Disagree. Points go on your driving record and stay there for at least three years. When your insurance company gets wind of it you then become an increased liability and they raise your premium a lot. Out here in the northeast you get fined $50 for running a red light when a camera catches you, and then it's all forgotten about. Some even get off paying the fine if they have a good alibi. I don't think these cameras are so good in stopping the offensive drving as they are in raising revenues for the municipality.

10/23/2005 02:36:24 AM · #11

Originally posted by Olyuzi:

Out here in the northeast you get fined $50 for running a red light when a camera catches you, and then it's all forgotten about.

$271 minimum here and it is a 3-point moving violation.

With the newer cars out now and their phenomenal rate of acceleration, one can be pulling out into the street, look left, (see a vehicle a ways away) look right, start to move out as you look left again and the damned car is like right there! Motorcycles can do this too - difficult to judge the rate of acceleration anymore.

Panasonic Lumix G 14mm F2.5 ASPH

10/23/2005 02:38:22 AM · #12

Originally posted by Olyuzi:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by Olyuzi:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Answer: speed cameras

Though someone will say it's a violation of some right and fight it in court.

Cameras won't do a darn thing because no points get taken off from your license since the cameras can not prove that you were driving the car at the time of the infraction.

Getting hit in the pocket book works far better than just a few points.

Disagree. Points go on your driving record and stay there for at least three years. When your insurance company gets wind of it you then become an increased liability and they raise your premium a lot. Out here in the northeast you get fined $50 for running a red light when a camera catches you, and then it's all forgotten about. Some even get off paying the fine if they have a good alibi. I don't think these cameras are so good in stopping the offensive drving as they are in raising revenues for the municipality.

We're talking speeding not running red lights though cameras for both do work as a deterent to a certain extent. True, points will eventually effect your insurance which is another hit to the pocketbook. I hope the fines for speeding in your area are more than the red light fine you quoted.

Olyuzi

Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX7

10/23/2005 02:52:29 AM · #13

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

I was caught by one of those red light cameras a couple of years ago and my fine was $50 with no points off my license. (I tried beating the yellow and got caught.) Maybe since then the fines have come up, but my friend who is a cop told me they can't take points off cause they can't prove it was you driving.

I'd be very happy if the fines here were what they are where Brad lives with points off. I'm a bicycle commuter now and am very aware of what's going down on the roads and how people are driving. Very scary to say the least. Drivers in the northeast don't take this activity too seriously and drive wrecklessly and don't pay too much attention to the task at hand. Many are oblivious to what's going on around them, and drive while eating, talking on the cell phone, reading, looking at maps, talking to the kids in the back seat, driving with one foot hanging out the window...all while their vehicle is moving. Not to mention speeding!

I got hit by a car last winter and would have had my elbow shattered had the side view mirror not been made to collapse. I can't tell you how many other close calls I've had because people drive irresponsibly and/or wrecklessly. There are very aggressive here and tailgate you at high speeds, cut you off intentionally if you're traveling too slow for them, etc.

10/23/2005 03:02:37 AM · #14

Originally posted by Olyuzi:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
We're talking speeding not running red lights though cameras for both do work as a deterent to a certain extent. True, points will eventually effect your insurance which is another hit to the pocketbook. I hope the fines for speeding in your area are more than the red light fine you quoted.

I was caught by one of those red light cameras a couple of years ago and my fine was $50 with no points off my license. (I tried beating the yellow and got caught.) Maybe since then the fines have come up, but my friend who is a cop told me they can't take points off cause they can't prove it was you driving.

I'd be very happy if the fines here were what they are where Brad lives with points off. I'm a bicycle commuter now and am very aware of what's going down on the roads and how people are driving. Very scary to say the least. Drivers in the northeast don't take this activity too seriously and drive wrecklessly and don't pay too much attention to the task at hand. Many are oblivious to what's going on around them, and drive while eating, talking on the cell phone, reading, looking at maps, talking to the kids in the back seat, driving with one foot hanging out the window...all while their vehicle is moving. Not to mention speeding!

I got hit by a car last winter and would have had my elbow shattered had the side view mirror not been made to collapse. I can't tell you how many other close calls I've had because people drive irresponsibly and/or wrecklessly. There are very aggressive here and tailgate you at high speeds, cut you off intentionally if you're traveling too slow for them, etc.

Reminds me of the Mr. Bean skit where he's late for the Dentist and gets dressed, has breakfast and brushes his teeth all while driving (from the back seat). He uses the windshield washer to rinse.

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

11/11/2005 03:19:20 PM · #15

And once again...

Sheesh.
Still about 1 a week there.

David.C

11/11/2005 03:27:25 PM · #16

Originally posted by BradP:

... Still about 1 a week there.

If you want to get something done about it, publish a chronicle of what happens -- single incidents involving different people are easily forgotten. Make sure it is seen as you see it -- a regular event.

David

soup

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0 L USM

11/11/2005 04:31:11 PM · #17

if they stopped taking care of the roads, like here in vermont - people will slow down and pay attention to the road - if for no other reason than avoiding the pot holes... ;}

Samsung Galaxy S24, S24+, S24 Ultra

12/01/2005 02:43:08 PM · #18

and once again...

pidge

Canon EOS-7D Mark II

12/01/2005 02:52:08 PM · #19

Originally posted by soup:

if they stopped taking care of the roads, like here in vermont - people will slow down and pay attention to the road - if for no other reason than avoiding the pot holes... ;}

Doesn't stop them up here in Montreal (the potholes I mean)

Brad: You're sullying my memory of Escondido! :P

Bear_Music

Sony Vario-Tessar T* FE 24-70mm f/4 ZA OSS

12/01/2005 02:54:27 PM · #20

Brad,

once again syncronicity; just at the exacts ame time as I'm posting wedding pics you are postin car wreck pics. Think I should tell the happy couple? Our image numbers overlap is how I found this :-)

R.

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