Delicate: "Fragile Message" with 1-3s

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

11/02/2005 02:22:02 AM · #1

Not that I am any upset but just curious to know why this got so many 1s, 2s and 3s?

Not that 32nd place is bad but with 16 x 9s and 17 x 10s it should have been in top 20th at least - if not in top 10th. If you look other photos in top 30th, you can see they did not get many 1-3s.

Do you think too many did not understand what it was or thought it was fake? Or was it cropped too tight and flipping made it too surreal?

The original:

The place:

What is your opinion? Thank you.

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Rikki

Canon EOS-20D

11/02/2005 02:23:56 AM · #2

I think simply because it wasn't too clear what it really was to begin with. I gave this a 5 personally. I would have given the wider angle a higher score. Just my opinion of course.

MQuinn

Olympus OM-D E-M1

Olympus 14-54mm f/2.8-3.5 Zuiko Digital Zoom

11/02/2005 02:28:56 AM · #3

I Think you were a big hit to 17 people! Thats all that really matters! I thought it was a good photo, but maybe it didn't say delicate to some.

11/02/2005 02:29:33 AM · #4

I think it's a fascinating and ethereal image, and I scored it quite high, but it's a little "tricky". It's confusing, it's not obvious. I suspect that many voters in this challenge weren't expecting to deal with a "puzzle" and voted it down accordingly. If this had been entered in "Reflections" I bet it would have done a lot better.

Robt.

11/02/2005 02:36:52 AM · #5

Originally posted by rikki11:

I think simply because it wasn't too clear what it really was to begin with. I gave this a 5 personally. I would have given the wider angle a higher score. Just my opinion of course.

That was what I was awraid of when I make my decision of crop. But it just looked better when details was shown.

But no reason to give <4 if a photo is not understandable. It should be 5 at least if it is high quality anyway.

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

11/02/2005 02:38:12 AM · #6

Originally posted by sz1_:

But no reason to give <4 if a photo is not understandable. It should be 5 at least if it is high quality anyway.

You can't say that. Each person's responsible for his/her own value system. It's just the way it works.

R.

Rikki

Canon EOS-20D

11/02/2005 02:38:25 AM · #7

Yep. In my own little personal scoring method, if I don't quite understand the image yet it has technical merit, I give it a 5.

11/02/2005 02:39:31 AM · #8

Originally posted by bear_music:

Thanks, not a boring photo at least :)

I know and thought that alreay.... Oh why I was not there shooting when "reflections" was still on. :(

11/02/2005 02:43:13 AM · #9

Originally posted by bear_music:

Originally posted by sz1_:

But no reason to give <4 if a photo is not understandable. It should be 5 at least if it is high quality anyway.

You can't say that. Each person's responsible for his/her own value system. It's just the way it works.

R.

Of course they have. Just my opinion that it is not that fair ;)

TooCool

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

11/02/2005 03:14:24 AM · #10

Ya got a 5.9... Boo freakin' hoo...

Edit: Sorry, that sounded really bad so let me elaborate... Your shot recieved a very nice quantity of 9's and 10's. More than I think, without looking at it to make sure, than my 2nd place ribbon winner. Yet a bunch of people (I myself if I had enough time to vote on it) didn't appreciate it. In spite of all those people, you hit 5.9. I would be quite proud!

Message edited by author 2005-11-02 03:23:22.

11/02/2005 03:28:04 AM · #11

Originally posted by TooCool:

Nah, I am not that upset just curious :)

TooCool

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

11/02/2005 03:31:54 AM · #12

Originally posted by sz1_:

Nah, I am not that upset just curious :)

Been there and done that! :-P

You really got that crop outa the new rebel? What glass were you using? This is a classic example of a shot that I really like that I woulda scored down here cause it looks too digital! :-P

11/02/2005 03:32:49 AM · #13

Originally posted by sz1_:

Nah, I am not that upset just curious :)

That's how I take it too. This doesn't strike me as an especially whiny thread. Except for your unfortunate comment that "it's not fair" :-)

I gave up on "fair" in first grade...

Robt.

Message edited by author 2005-11-02 03:35:35.

11/02/2005 03:35:09 AM · #14

Originally posted by TooCool:

[quote=sz1_]

You really got that crop outa the new rebel? What glass were you using? This is a classic example of a shot that I really like that I woulda scored down here cause it looks too digital! :-P

I don't think it's a crop from the wider picture; I think the wider one is just another from the sequence. Clouds are different...

R.

11/02/2005 03:36:27 AM · #15

FYI: The challenge photo was not cropped from that outtake photo (was just to show the place wider). The challenge photo was just cropped a little from a close up.

Message edited by author 2005-11-02 03:46:37.

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

11/02/2005 04:20:35 AM · #16

Originally posted by bear_music:

Originally posted by sz1_:

Nah, I am not that upset just curious :)

That's how I take it too. This doesn't strike me as an especially whiny thread. Except for your unfortunate comment that "it's not fair" :-)

I gave up on "fair" in first grade...

Robt.

I did not ment "it's no fair" but that for me it is no reason to give <4 for good picture because it is not obvious for some.

I did not get any good comments for ppl that scored it low in first place. This is the place to ask, is isnt't it? :)

Stagolee

Kodak Easyshare C180

Canon EF 50mm f1.2L

11/02/2005 04:25:27 AM · #17

If I remember correctly this had a validation request put in.
I'm just thinking maybe some voters thought it was illegal and voted that way.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

11/02/2005 07:19:51 AM · #18

Originally posted by keegbow:

If I remember correctly this had a validation request put in.
I'm just thinking maybe some voters thought it was illegal and voted that way.

You may be right, if so I hope those voters see this post... the rules state that if you think a shot is illegal, request a DQ review and vote as if the shot were legal

I personally gave it an 8. Original, beautiful, fits the challenge. IMO, the bulk of folks who voted it lower were just not moved by it, the voting distribution does suggest that there was a wide disparity in hwo the image was perceived. Well, at any rate, it looks as though you made the voters think! I'd be very happy with this showing, and proud that you've got this image in your portfolio.

Message edited by author 2005-11-02 07:22:09.

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

11/02/2005 08:24:29 AM · #19

I gave it a 7. I also left a comment (just a simple one) and just noted that your marking of 'Helpful' is quite sporadic for the comments left on your entry. Fine with me. Really. Just a curiosity, that's all.

11/02/2005 08:28:58 AM · #20

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Just trying my best to add "Helpful" for those really giving something what do change or what they like in there ;) Is that the point for that? :D