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10/30/2005 08:48:56 PM · #1 |
I had thought before that I could see all the gradations of the calibration bar at the bottom of the entries, but I just noticed that on my CRT I cannot differentiate the last 4-5 black boxes. This is with contrast and brightness both at 100%. I went to my laptop and there I can't differentiate the last 2-3. Can anybody actually see a difference between the far two or three boxes on the right?
I've calibrated both my monitors with adobe gamma. |
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10/30/2005 08:55:40 PM · #2 |
I use a Sony E500 CRT, and I can just make out the divison between the last two bars, in a relatively dark room. With more room light, I cannot make out the line between the last two.
Many monitors just are not capable of displaying them all. If you're not seeing the last 4 or 5, that is a real problem though.
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10/30/2005 08:57:50 PM · #3 |
I have an HP Pavilion f1703 flat LCD monitor, and I can differentiate between all shades. Differences are very subtle but I can see them...and I have the lights on. :-)
Message edited by author 2005-10-30 20:58:02.
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10/30/2005 09:04:38 PM · #4 |
I have to look pretty close on the last two.
It's pretty amazing (maybe not the right word) while voting on the light on white challenge entries. Very few are coming close to the white bar.
forgot - I have a ViewSonic A91f+
Message edited by author 2005-10-30 21:07:49. |
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10/30/2005 09:05:25 PM · #5 |
| I can see them all. I have an IBM Thinkpad laptop. I can see them all on my boyfriend's desktop Dell too (no idea what the specific monitor is). |
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10/30/2005 09:33:29 PM · #6 |
| I'm not surprised. It's a cheap 17" CRT. However, I think it's dimmed with age and was surprised at how dark it was now. I don't really vote on that one, but I do tend to check my submissions on the CRT after working on them on the laptop. It's more the resolution, but I've seen things on the CRT at times that I didn't see on the laptop. |
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10/31/2005 02:21:51 AM · #7 |
19" Samsung SyncMaster 997MB-TT
Calibrated with this site (EPaper monitor calibration) and I see all squares clearly.
Here is a good test of your monitor's capability (both ends of the spectrum included to be fair). The top line is in 1 step increments while each line below has a step twice as large as the one above. The 4th line down is roughly equivalent to the DPC vote page scale. On the above mentioned monitor I can differentiate the individual squares on the second line all the way across -- I was pleasantly surprised how capable the monitor is, especially for no more than it costs.
 
These are best viewed under normal lighting conditions against a full screen background, black (for the darkscale) or white (for the lightscale). The top line should always be a smooth gradient, while the ability to differentiate the lower lines will depend on the monitor and calibration.
It should be noted that if the top line is not a smooth gradient images with large areas of continuous tones (such as clear skys and seamless backgrounds) could have blocky splotches in them. This happens when the monitors contrast is too high.
David
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10/31/2005 04:31:28 AM · #8 |
I have an Apple cinema display and can see them on both ends.
I have noticed that somethings that look good on my well calibrated monitor get "TOO DARK" comments though.
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10/31/2005 04:40:39 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by ttreit:
I have an Apple cinema display and can see them on both ends.
I have noticed that somethings that look good on my well calibrated monitor get "TOO DARK" comments though. |
That display is noted for its incredible contrast in the dark areas. It's unrealistic to expect that most viewers will be able to pick out separation in the darks that you see easily with this monitor. Undifferentiated dark areas = "too dark" to the average voter, so you just need to take this into account. I have similar problems with my LaCie Electron Blue, which is very good at showing subtleties in the dark portions of images.
Robt.
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10/31/2005 09:50:40 AM · #10 |
I just bought the Dell 2005FPW and subsequently had to buy a new graphics card. I love the monitor but I find it way too bright. I've tried Adobe Gamma (but since read it's not recommended for this type of display). I'm considering a hardware calibrator like Spyder but I just read about ColorWizzard. Anyone with a LCD gone this route?
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