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10/23/2005 03:40:28 PM · #251			 | 
		
		Originally posted by nshapiro:   Ok, I know lots have done it, but I am now wondering: Is adding grain in the shot via post processing still legal in advanced editing?  Isn't that considered rendering pixels?  |   
 
 I don't think it's illegal but I think it would be much more creative to do it without the grain filter.
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10/23/2005 03:40:40 PM · #252			 | 
		
		Originally posted by nshapiro:   Ok, I know lots have done it, but I am now wondering: Is adding grain in the shot via post processing still legal in advanced editing?  Isn't that considered rendering pixels?  |   
 
 Adding noise is listed as being acceptable for basic editing (see details of basic editing) , so it must be for Advanced as well |  
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10/23/2005 03:41:29 PM · #253			 | 
		
		Originally posted by nshapiro:   Ok, I know lots have done it, but I am now wondering: Is adding grain in the shot via post processing still legal in advanced editing?  Isn't that considered rendering pixels?  |   
 
 Adding noise is legal in both rulesets. 
 
 Robt.
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10/23/2005 03:43:17 PM · #254			 | 
		
		Originally posted by orussell:   Originally posted by nshapiro:   Ok, I know lots have done it, but I am now wondering: Is adding grain in the shot via post processing still legal in advanced editing?  Isn't that considered rendering pixels?  |   
 
 I don't think it's illegal but I think it would be much more creative to do it without the grain filter.  |   
 
 That's virtually impossible for normal subjects with a 20D. Even at its noisiest, a full-frame image reduced to 640 pixels shows virtually no noise. The only way to do it would be to crop like crazy...
 
 R.
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10/23/2005 03:53:55 PM · #255			 | 
		
		I realy wanted to enter this one, perhaps with a little more work, but I'm becoming extremely sensitive to people complaining they recognize my subjects, so I'm posting it here instead and outing myself so I won't be tempted at the last minute :-( How does it look to y'all?
 
  
 
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10/23/2005 03:55:40 PM · #256			 | 
		
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10/23/2005 03:56:40 PM · #257			 | 
		
		Oh, just commented on the image itself.  To be honest, I had no idea it was yours. When I click on a thumbnail to comment, I don't look at the name until AFTERWARD.
 
 NOBODY will guess MY grain. bwa ha ha ha ha ha.
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10/23/2005 04:18:48 PM · #258			 | 
		
		Originally posted by bear_music:   I realy wanted to enter this one, perhaps with a little more work, but I'm becoming extremely sensitive to people complaining they recognize my subjects, so I'm posting it here instead and outing myself so I won't be tempted at the last minute :-( How does it look to y'all?
 
  
 
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 Looks very Joeyesque.
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10/23/2005 04:30:42 PM · #259			 | 
		
		I hope we see some color shots in this challenge. It seems to me converting to sepia or B/W then adding noise will be the norm for this challenge.  
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10/23/2005 04:34:14 PM · #260			 | 
		
		Naturally I took this a day too early.  I think it's grainy and it's in color...but it would probably be another 5.1 anyway.  :(
 
  
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10/23/2005 05:00:28 PM · #261			 | 
		
		Originally posted by bear_music:   I realy wanted to enter this one, perhaps with a little more work, but I'm becoming extremely sensitive to people complaining they recognize my subjects, so I'm posting it here instead and outing myself so I won't be tempted at the last minute :-( How does it look to y'all?
 
  
 
 Robt.  |   
 
 Don't let em get to you Robt!!!! If you don't enter the challenges it means you're letting 'them' win, and more importantly ...taking a creative and always interesting (often out of the box) shot out of the challenge arena!
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10/23/2005 05:13:04 PM · #262			 | 
		
		I agree about the color shots.  If we could just clone Joey Lawrence. hee hee
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10/23/2005 05:48:31 PM · #263			 | 
		
		I was just playing around with grain on this one. I think it went ok, first time playing with grain really.
 
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10/23/2005 05:52:11 PM · #264			 | 
		
		Originally posted by bear_music: 
  
 
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 bear_music, you goober! :)  I wouldn't have known this was you at all. Unless you have the skiff hidden in there somewhere and I missed it? LOL
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10/23/2005 11:24:12 PM · #265			 | 
		
		Originally posted by LadeeM:   Originally posted by bear_music: 
  
 
 Robt.  |   
 bear_music, you goober! :)  I wouldn't have known this was you at all. Unless you have the skiff hidden in there somewhere and I missed it? LOL  |   
 
 Take a look at my profile, challenge entries :-) Ring a bell? jejejeâ¢
 
 Not to fear, people, it's not that I'm not entering; I'm just not entering this shot. And oh, yeah, mine's a color entry.
 
 R.
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10/24/2005 12:18:33 AM · #266			 | 
		
		And now that the challenge is in voting stage, I think that 80% of the photo's just have added grain. No message with the grain.
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10/24/2005 02:03:31 AM · #267			 | 
		
		Originally posted by Philos31:   And now that the challenge is in voting stage, I think that 80% of the photo's just have added grain. No message with the grain.  |   
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10/24/2005 02:10:57 AM · #268			 | 
		
		| unfortunately, with such a small size of image, the most noisy picture that I produced was still not grainy enough to have it seen natively. so I added grain, so what? the challenge was to use grain as a tool to add to the feel of the photograph. As long as that function is performed, why does anyone care how it was achieved? |  
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10/24/2005 11:01:29 AM · #269			 | 
		
		 
 
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 Not sure I went with the right shot for the challenge, these were two outtakes...I have a third, but it is too close to my entry to post. Which of these two are better? |  
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10/24/2005 11:26:11 AM · #270			 | 
		
		Originally posted by Sherri1209:  Not sure I went with the right shot for the challenge, these were two outtakes...I have a third, but it is too close to my entry to post. Which of these two are better?  |   
 
 They're both interesting, but I also think they are too "busy" for the grain to have any impact.  The grain isn't adding anything to the "message".  JMO.
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10/24/2005 06:52:58 PM · #271			 | 
		
		Originally posted by bear_music:   Take a look at my profile, challenge entries :-) Ring a bell? jejejeâ¢
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 OK ... the church ... I got'cha now! :)
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