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10/21/2005 03:06:36 PM · #26
Originally posted by mkalandros:

Thus DSLRs DO have some benefit over P&S cameras. That being said, I don't think you will necessarily take better pictures -- that's more the photographer than anything else, as any ribbon winner with a P&S camera can attest. What you get with a DSLR is the ability to take good shots under a wider range of conditions (e.g. low light) and some creative shots (e.g. long exposures at f22) that you wouldn't be able to get with most P&S cameras.


Hah, why you're trying to suck & blow at the same time, I don't know. The advantage is huge! Half the pics I try to take my camera simply cannot handle due to the 'narrower range of conditions' it can shoot in. That limits me a full 100%, huge, huge, huge!

I don't know why some people can't just admit that there is a HUGE difference. Oh sure, let's compare shots of a tree in easy conditions, that's meaningless.

What taboo is being broken by saying the difference is HUGE! C'mon, admit it!

:-P


10/21/2005 03:42:40 PM · #27

I was using a Fuji S602z, a step above a P&S and then the Deja Vu challenge showed me unequivocally that i needed to move on up to a dSLR.

I still have my trusty old Fuji 1400z though!


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10/21/2005 03:54:01 PM · #28
Originally posted by mkalandros:

Maryba,

You've got an 8700 -- what do you think of the its performance at ISO 400?

BTW, have you noticed any problems with the way the 8700 renders purples? My shots of purple objects tend to have a bluish tint to them. Not sure if its simply an imprecise white balance that shows up one this color in particular or what is going on.

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I rarely switch from ISO 50 on the Coolpix. Most of my photos are on stationary objects in the early morning/late afternoon. Maybe I am colorblind-but I seem to get a lot of complaints from dpc'ers about yellows.

My main problem with the Nikon coolpix is the limited aperature range and control of depth of field. If I want to take a photograph at f2 or f22, I switch to my film camera.

10/21/2005 05:59:23 PM · #29
dSLR
P&S

dSLR
dSLR
P&S, hey, it's tough to follow action in my little window, then there's a delay when I shoot. :-P

dSLR
No P&S comparison available, because a P&S couldn't get through the cage in front of the eagle, not even with the hokey manual focus. :-P Joey used X-ray powers & made the cage disappear, it's just freaky!


This is what you can kiss if you disagree with me. :-P


10/21/2005 06:21:23 PM · #30
Originally posted by Strikeslip:


This is what you can kiss if you disagree with me. :-P


DSLR or P&S? ;)
10/21/2005 06:24:36 PM · #31
BTW, I won both my ribbons with P&S cameras, but I have yet to win anything with my 350D.

Oh, wait, I have yet to enter anything from my 350D.

Sorry, bad example...
10/21/2005 07:16:47 PM · #32
I've entered 43 challenges on DPC. Roughly half of my challenge entries were done with my Olympus C-8080 "point and shoot" (actually, I object to the term "point and shoot", but that's besides the point). Then I got a Canon Digital Rebel XT, and roughly half of my challenge entries were done with it.

My top three scoring photos were all taken with my dSLR. Here is the first one:

This would have been physically impossible to take with my Olympus. I used a super-wide lens (10mm) that my Olympus could not have come close to.

Here is my second highest scoring photo:

For this shot I stood very far from my model to make the sun appear large relative to her and used a 200mm focal length to fill the frame with her and the sun. Although my Olympus doesn't come close to this focal length, I could have used the Olympus and stood the same distance from my model to get the same effect. Only difference is that I would have had to crop the hell out of the picture to get the desired composition. Would I have lost too much image quality in doing the extreme crop? Maybe.

Here is my third highest scoring photo:

This was done in my kitchen at home on a tripod. I feel confident that this could have easily been done with my Olympus. In fact, it may have turned out better with the Olympus, since it has a deeper depth of field.

What's my point? I'm just saying that some shots you can only get with a dSLR, other shots you can get with either type of camera, and still other shots fall somewhere in between. And I think it's noteworthy that my highest scoring shots were all taken with the dSLR. Is it because of the camera, or because my skills have improved? Don't know. Maybe a little of each.
10/21/2005 07:24:11 PM · #33
Dont' feel bad.....I got a little Kodak CX4200 and I feel like poor camera trailer trash!! He, he!!
10/21/2005 07:49:23 PM · #34
Well thanks for all making my night lol. I just took a bunch of shots the past 2 days and quite a few came out really good. Won't post because I may be using them for a current challenge. My husband is amazing with a regular camera and he complimented me on a few of the shots I took. So I MUST be doing something right lol. I'm gaining some skills hehe.
Well what about SLR-LIKE cameras? I'm seeing a lot of them online and sample pics with them- i use dpreview. I've got it narrowed down to a few now. I was going to sell my p&s to a friend, but after reading all these replies I'm wondering if I should just keep it. Is an "SLR-Like" camera similar to a p&s?

As you can see I'm all new to this. Up until a few weeks ago I was just taking pics of my daughter, nothing creative or artsy really. Not even trying to be that way. Now I am lol.
10/21/2005 07:59:27 PM · #35
My top scoring two pictures and my only ribbon were taken before I got my DSLR, so while I can do a whole lot more with my new camera, my sense of design, style and what makes me a photographer is not just my fancy hardware. My two cents.
10/21/2005 11:05:37 PM · #36
Originally posted by Strikeslip:



This is what you can kiss if you disagree with me. :-P

10/22/2005 12:13:10 AM · #37
My Fuji 602 was SLR-like. A long zoom range, you can add filters, TC convterters or wide angle converters, had a hotshoe, full manual capability.
For some this may be sufficient.

What it lacked compared to a dSLR is instant shutter response, too much noise and higher ISO, no TTL dedicated flash. On many images, particularly on the web, there is very little quality difference. But on others, the difference is absolutely huge.

Then there is the psychological part.
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