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09/20/2005 07:42:27 PM · #51 |
Can anyone ever imagine a technically poor photo being any 'good'?
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09/20/2005 07:44:52 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Can anyone ever imagine a technically poor photo being any 'good'? |
Yes. Robert Capa's shot of a spanish soldier at the moment of death (as it's always described) is technically poor. So are his shots from the landing-craft on D-Day's Normandy beaches; the latter by his own admission.
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09/20/2005 07:46:17 PM · #53 |
| And ... Marc riboud's shot of whatever-her-name-is holding a flower in front of the National Guard in the 60's is arguably out of focus. |
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09/20/2005 07:50:10 PM · #54 |
any pic of my kids are good ones!! though perhaps not technically sound. :)
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09/20/2005 07:58:38 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
You are correct. In a nutshell, today's post here is simply stating that there is, or should be, more to a photograph than technical aspects. We sometimes tend to focus too heavily on those and forget why the photo was made to start with. |
I agree, and your example comments illustrate your point beautifully.
Still, I went back over my own challenge entries and tried to decide which had been the most truly useful in helping my photography, and it was the technical ones that had helped the most - probably a function of where I am in photography. Comments like "try to use more interesting lighting" and "too out of focus" were genuinely helpful and made me change my next photographs immediately. (Believe it or not, I hadn't required perfect focus from myself; now I do - although I don't always achieve it.)
The example comments in this thread would also have been really useful to me as well, so I'm not sure that one type of comment wins over the other for me.
The "I just like this" type comments give me a high that help me digest the more constructive ones, and the sassy negative comments generally make me laugh and lighten up.
While I think that there can be suggestions for commenting (like the great tutorials here & at deviantart) I think that any hard & fast rules are tough to justify. |
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09/20/2005 08:09:49 PM · #56 |
What a wonderful forum thread after all the whining, adolescent drivel we've suffered lately!
I agree with John Setzler's opening salvo, although I am also attracted to David Sidwell's slightly softer position.
The two make interesting bedfellows; DS - a consummate artist but also a fine photographer, and JS - a consummate photographer but also a fine artist. Not quite the same thing at all, really.
To me the most valuable critique says "What I see, how it makes me feel, and why".
The technical stuff you'll figure out one way or another; it's less important anyway. But assuming the photographer is trying to communicate something more than See? ... I have an expensive lens and a copy of Neatimage, then it is more constructive, and ultimately more instructive too, if the critique is of the type John Setzler advocates. |
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09/20/2005 08:09:53 PM · #57 |
Whoops! double post ..sorry!
Message edited by author 2005-09-20 20:11:38. |
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09/20/2005 09:16:00 PM · #58 |
The technical critiques have their place in the greater scheme of things... especially, as stated earlier, to the beginning photographer, which many of us here are.
As my closing thought in this thread, I would like to re-iterate a point I made somewhere around here in the past. The beginning photographer will benefit MOST by doing two things:
1. Giving critique
2. Self critique of his/her own work
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