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09/20/2005 09:33:57 AM · #1 |
Am I the only one that thinks all these posts about comments is getting a bit crazy around here lately? At least a few times a week you get people whining about a "mean spirited" comment, one that is not technically sound or one that wasnn't marked helpful. I am really starting to get upset about this because I think the exact opposite and I have noticed my comments changing over the past few weeks.
I personally WANT people to tell me what is wrong with my picture. I don;t care if I agree with it or not.. I still want to hear others ideas. The last thing that I want is people to blow smoke up my butt and tell me how wonderful it is. How is that supposed to help me improve. For me the only comments that ARE NOT helpful are the ones telling me how much they like this shot or that. So please members... as a service to people that think and feel the same as I do, continue to post comments freely and don't worry about the few that are only looking for a pat on the back. That kind of thinking will not help any of us in the long run.
We are all here to improve and the only way that is going to happen is through open and honest discussion. Put your feelings aside for just one moment at lets not take everything so personally. We all thinki differently and have different opinions on ALL of the pictures here... so speak your mind. No picture is ever perfect so tell it as you see it.
That is all... carry on.
ps. I guess this would qualify as another bitching about comments posts. Oh well.... one more can't hurt! ;) |
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09/20/2005 09:42:15 AM · #2 |
People Generally dislike comments that are a) Without any substance "No, I don't like it" / "This is good" b) People being rude in comments "This is pathetic", and c) Not getting comments at all.
It has nothing to do with praise only. Generally.
I do not like your thread subject. I find your it kind of immature.
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09/20/2005 09:49:56 AM · #3 |
But, BlackDot, that doesn't really seem to be true of many others. Several people have started threads screaming for more comments, and several, like you, have said "Don't just say you don't like it" and "Don't be rude."
However, as someone who is relatively new to photography, I'm not always certain of the quality of my observations. Hopefully, I've never fallen into the categories above (rude or uninformative about negative comments) but I do often say "I love it" without giving technical advice - I try to pinpoint why I love it but can't always put my finger on it. Beside, I LOVE to get those comments.
So, trying to be an active participant in this site, I try to leave informative comments on the images I don't like, suggesting more contrast, different crops, etc. I'm nervous about doing so because I know I'm not an expert - I can only give my own impression. I learn quite a bit myself when I do so, and I try to be very polite.
However, then people complain that commentators don't know what they're talking about.
What's a girl to do? |
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09/20/2005 11:17:29 AM · #4 |
| And every week there's a new thread about how all the threads are filled with whining. |
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09/20/2005 11:30:59 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by Bebe:
But, BlackDot, that doesn't really seem to be true of many others. Several people have started threads screaming for more comments, and several, like you, have said "Don't just say you don't like it" and "Don't be rude."
However, as someone who is relatively new to photography, I'm not always certain of the quality of my observations. Hopefully, I've never fallen into the categories above (rude or uninformative about negative comments) but I do often say "I love it" without giving technical advice - I try to pinpoint why I love it but can't always put my finger on it. Beside, I LOVE to get those comments.
So, trying to be an active participant in this site, I try to leave informative comments on the images I don't like, suggesting more contrast, different crops, etc. I'm nervous about doing so because I know I'm not an expert - I can only give my own impression. I learn quite a bit myself when I do so, and I try to be very polite.
However, then people complain that commentators don't know what they're talking about.
What's a girl to do? |
Couldn't agree more! I have said the same thing before - I try my best but I KNOW I am not technically advanced enough to judge many of the photographers on this site. I enjoy the comments I receive but really appreciate any comment that gives me insight into what the viewer is seeing and even if I don't agree with their opinion then at least it has made me look at my pic again with new eyes. Please accept my views with the same tolerance.
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09/20/2005 11:35:55 AM · #6 |
I'm happy with a simple:
"ewww..." -kudzu
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"OHH yuck. 5." -rlinn3
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"i love slippy" -Joey Lawrence
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09/20/2005 12:10:38 PM · #7 |
I personaly do not get excited when someone checks the helpful box. I try to simply state my opinion and my personal point of view. Take it or leave it. I always try to be nice but to the point. I am learning more of the technicals daily( even more so now that i have joined the critique club) I have found that most people who ask for a Critique never check the box as helpful. you could always put something in your profile for the people you leave comments for. heres mine ( just a suggestion) but still pass out the comments as you see fit. dont let the whiners run you off from making an honest comment( so long as it isnt just mean or rude) but candy coating it will also get you no where with me.
"~~ To everyone i leave a comment for~~ please take my suggestion and opinion for that and nothing more. i do not claim (in no way) to be a professional or even an experienced photographer. I will simply (and I try to be as gentle and considerate as possiable) state my view. If you have any questions or wish for me to explain my view more clearly please dont hesitate to pm me even if it is during a challenge. My only intention is to help my fellow aspiring photographers to the best of my abilities. Thanks and stay safe ~~Cher~~ "
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09/20/2005 12:33:01 PM · #8 |
IMO, any comment is a good comment and informative to me. I keep a view that there are a lot of different kinds of animals here on dpc, with a huge variance of skill, experience, and even time available or willing to commit, and different goals for being here and participating.
'cool', or 'I like it' -tells me that the commentor, well, they like it. If the scores are not too hot, but at least a few comments along that line, then I know that it may be a taste thing, and at least some find some merit in the pic. If a lot of comments like that, then maybe I've done something right :-)
'sucks', 'horrible', 'sell your camera dude', - tells me I may have made a poor choice, or what was I thinking, or maybe I didn't pay close enough attention to the technical stuff.
etc. etc. (think you get the idea)
I think there are probably many that feel similarly (is that a word?) (see Slippy's post above). So don't feel bad, and comment away! All comments have value (again, IMO). If you're just starting out, in time you'll find it easier to expand a little, if you desire :-) And the important thing is, remember that the more you study photos and comment on them, you will find it will steadily improve YOUR photos. So I say, don't worry about the 'helpful' box, don't worry about nasty pms (they're good for a laugh, I think), don't worry about whatever, yadda, yadda, yadda...get all you can out of, and all that you want to get out of it all. And keep in mind, mean people SUK!, don't let them ruin your day :-)
So, I say, a big THANK-YOU to any and everybody that comments...especially on MY pics :-P :-P :-P
...I guess this is my rant for the day, thanks for the thread :-)
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09/20/2005 12:43:59 PM · #9 |
After reading this thread, a couple of others, and setz's about not using "technical" terms, I have come to the following conclusion. Consider it my "maxim" on commenting.
If your picture moves me to comment, I will comment. If there is something I think could be improved, technically, I am going to tell you as such. If it stirs an emotion in me, I will tell you. If I leave a comment such as "good shot" "great capture" "nice", well, you can assume I mean "good shot" "great capture" "nice" and that I probably like the shot without a really solid reason as to why. If i leave a comment such as "ummm, no" "better luck next time" or "why" then you can safely assume that for some reason you did not appeal to me. If your sole purpose is to appeal to me, then you have failed. If it is not (and I hope htat it isn't), you may have succeeded. My comments are my opinions. If you meant for it to look exactly like you did, and I give you technical and emotional reasons why I didn't like it, and then I offer suggestions for how to change it to appeal to me, it is my opinion. If it looks like you want it to look, why do you care what i think anyway?
I also fully recognize that all of the above could apply to my comment(s) as well. Thank you and have a great day.
Wow, I feel better now. Think I'll go leave a comment or two.
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09/20/2005 12:49:29 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by karmat:
After reading this thread, a couple of others, and setz's about not using "technical" terms, I have come to the following conclusion. Consider it my "maxim" on commenting.
If your picture moves me to comment, I will comment. If there is something I think could be improved, technically, I am going to tell you as such. If it stirs an emotion in me, I will tell you. If I leave a comment such as "good shot" "great capture" "nice", well, you can assume I mean "good shot" "great capture" "nice" and that I probably like the shot without a really solid reason as to why. If i leave a comment such as "ummm, no" "better luck next time" or "why" then you can safely assume that for some reason you did not appeal to me. If your sole purpose is to appeal to me, then you have failed. If it is not (and I hope htat it isn't), you may have succeeded. My comments are my opinions. If you meant for it to look exactly like you did, and I give you technical and emotional reasons why I didn't like it, and then I offer suggestions for how to change it to appeal to me, it is my opinion. If it looks like you want it to look, why do you care what i think anyway?
I also fully recognize that all of the above could apply to my comment(s) as well. Thank you and have a great day.
Wow, I feel better now. Think I'll go leave a comment or two. |
AMEN! You 
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09/20/2005 12:52:42 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by laurielblack:
Originally posted by karmat:
After reading this thread, a couple of others, and setz's about not using "technical" terms, I have come to the following conclusion. Consider it my "maxim" on commenting.
If your picture moves me to comment, I will comment. If there is something I think could be improved, technically, I am going to tell you as such. If it stirs an emotion in me, I will tell you. If I leave a comment such as "good shot" "great capture" "nice", well, you can assume I mean "good shot" "great capture" "nice" and that I probably like the shot without a really solid reason as to why. If i leave a comment such as "ummm, no" "better luck next time" or "why" then you can safely assume that for some reason you did not appeal to me. If your sole purpose is to appeal to me, then you have failed. If it is not (and I hope htat it isn't), you may have succeeded. My comments are my opinions. If you meant for it to look exactly like you did, and I give you technical and emotional reasons why I didn't like it, and then I offer suggestions for how to change it to appeal to me, it is my opinion. If it looks like you want it to look, why do you care what i think anyway?
I also fully recognize that all of the above could apply to my comment(s) as well. Thank you and have a great day.
Wow, I feel better now. Think I'll go leave a comment or two. |
AMEN! You |
Hi Laurie! |
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