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Sony 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 E-mount

09/11/2005 06:24:16 PM · #1

"That's funny. You feel normal to me" she said as she touched my arm gracefully and with a warmWHAM!. Seriously off topic...

Ok...I know that you can stop moving water with a shutter speed of 1/2000 sec. or faster. But how do you get the camera to shoot at these speeds? I have tried TV mode to no avail. No matter the ISO setting if I set a shutter speed this fast it ignores it and shoots at the speed the camera thinks is correct for the exposure. If I go to manual mode same thing. No matter what combination I set the shutter, aperture, ISO, the camera shoots at the speed it wants. Is this a camera problem or a photographer problem? (wait...don't answer that unless it is a camera problem..I already know I have problems)

What am I doing wrong?
How do I get the camera to shoot at the settings I want?
What am I missing?

(I still have so much to learn)

jmsetzler

Sony Alpha a6000

09/11/2005 06:25:22 PM · #2

Turn your flash off.

09/11/2005 06:28:13 PM · #3

Flash is ALWAYS off. The flash on this camera has never been fired and the settings keep it that way.

Message edited by author 2005-09-11 18:29:44.

09/11/2005 06:30:36 PM · #4

Mine does what I ask in Manual mode but I will have to sometimes switch to manual focus or it will not shoot.

Sony 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 E-mount

09/11/2005 06:35:36 PM · #5

ok..so you have the same camera and lenses as I do. I tried to get the camera to shoot at fast shutter speeds today and it would not do it no matter what I did. Using the 17-85 lense.

jmsetzler

Sony Alpha a6000

09/11/2005 06:39:15 PM · #6

if you put it in shutter priority mode and set the shutter to 1/2000, it should fire at 1/2000.

kyebosh

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 80-200mm f/2.8L

09/11/2005 06:40:40 PM · #7

it's a custom function problem, I had it with my 1D. At least it could be the problem.

edit: cfn 16

Message edited by author 2005-09-11 18:42:10.

09/11/2005 06:42:42 PM · #8

I set the camera for ISO 100, f5.6, 1/2000 and had to shoot the light bulb directly to get a picture but it fired off just fine in Manual mode. What firmware do you have?

If you go to menu (while in M mode)the last line will be firmware Ver

I am at 2.0.2

Peleng 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye MC In M42 Mount

09/11/2005 06:44:06 PM · #9

It doesn't. I was so frustrated today at the waterfalls I was at I felt like chucking the thing. I set it for 1/2000 in TV mode but it fired at 1/80. I changed the ISO to faster film and was able to get it to fire at 1/100 sec. It insisted on displaying to me my exposure was wrong and fired where it wanted to.

I went through the gamut of ISO settings, aperture settings, but no matter what I did in either Tv mode or Manual mode, it fired slower than I had it set.

Matthew

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

09/11/2005 06:46:13 PM · #10

Manual mode ("M")- should override all other settings. Use the jog dial on the back (having enabled it by moving the "on" switch to the line setting) and the finger dial to set Tv and Av. You may have a black photo if subject is too dark (try a higher ISO setting in that case), but it should fire at the ordered speed!

Dr.Confuser

Nikon D800

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

09/11/2005 06:50:19 PM · #11

Originally posted by Alienyst:

Try a Nikon?

09/11/2005 06:52:41 PM · #12

I am not at that firmware I kow that...every time I try to get the firmware upgrade nothing happens. I never receive the file.

C.Fn 16 is Saftey Shift - disable this? If I understand the explanation, if it is enabled it will change the shutter or aperture to obtain a suitable exposure.

kyebosh

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 80-200mm f/2.8L

09/11/2005 06:53:09 PM · #13

Originally posted by Alienyst:

try it and see if it fixes it.

riot

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

Helios 40-1 85mm f/1.5

09/11/2005 06:53:43 PM · #14

Disable custom function 16 - safety shift.

Edit: bugger, too slow.

Message edited by author 2005-09-11 18:54:06.

09/11/2005 06:54:45 PM · #15

Originally posted by legalbeagle:

Seems manual mode is not overriding anything. I know how to change the settings, the camera is ignoring them.

09/11/2005 07:01:08 PM · #16

Originally posted by Digital Quixote:

Originally posted by Alienyst:
"That's funny. You feel normal to me" she said as she touched my arm gracefully and with a warmWHAM!. Seriously off topic...

Ok...I know that you can stop moving water with a shutter speed of 1/2000 sec. or faster. But how do you get the camera to shoot at these speeds? I have tried TV mode to no avail. No matter the ISO setting if I set a shutter speed this fast it ignores it and shoots at the speed the camera thinks is correct for the exposure. If I go to manual mode same thing. No matter what combination I set the shutter, aperture, ISO, the camera shoots at the speed it wants. Is this a camera problem or a photographer problem? (wait...don't answer that unless it is a camera problem..I already know I have problems)

What am I doing wrong?
How do I get the camera to shoot at the settings I want?
What am I missing?

(I still have so much to learn)

Try a Nikon?

Why would he DOWNGRADE? ha ha ha

riot

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

Helios 40-1 85mm f/1.5

09/11/2005 07:04:42 PM · #17

Look, custom function 16 is safety shift. That overrides your settings in Av and Tv modes to give you a "correct" exposure if you push a setting out of range. Just turn it off :)

This is off by default, in fact until today i never knew it existed. Seems all the dumbed-down how-to-use-your-dslr-like-a-glorified-p&s websites are recommending you turn it on... along with boosting your contrast and saturation to the top and always shooting on a-dep mode.

09/11/2005 07:05:13 PM · #18

Originally posted by riot:

Disable custom function 16 - safety shift.

Edit: bugger, too slow.

Custom function 16 only controls Av and Tv mode. Manual mode should be fine?

I have never set these. Mine is set to disable

kyebosh

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 80-200mm f/2.8L

09/11/2005 07:07:54 PM · #19

Originally posted by riot:

I found out about it the hard way... The previous owner of my camera had left it on, and when I was shooting nighttime sports, it was doing weird things it wanted to. I couldn't figure out why, so I had to read the manual again and found this.

09/11/2005 07:15:01 PM · #20

Ok...C.FN 16 is disabled and it fires now at the speed I set it to. I re-enabled it to make sure and sure enough it wouldn't fire how I wanted it to. Not sure why this affects Manual mode, but all is well in the world not I guess.

Many thanks and much appreciation.

As for Firmware upgrade...I have tried many times to get the upgrade downloaded but I cannot. I click the link and it does nothing. Even if I did, I have no way of getting it into the cam since it needs to be on a CF card and I don't have a reader...I use the camera to download pics.

Message edited by author 2005-09-11 19:15:28.

Sigma 50-500mm f/4.0-6.3 EX DG HSM for Canon EOS

09/11/2005 07:20:26 PM · #21

Ok..I go to this link and click on the 20D Firmware update link and it quickly opens a new tab called controller.htm then closes it. No download, nothing. What am I doing wrong? Do I need the camera hooked up to the computer and turned on when i do this? Cause nowhere does it tell you this if this is necessary. EDIT: and I jsut tried and same thing. How do I get the update?

Message edited by author 2005-09-11 19:22:18.

Pioneer

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

09/11/2005 07:25:30 PM · #22

Just my guess, but if you don't have it hooked up how can the update get near your camera? Years ago I have done them with other cameras and you just need them plugged in and the update finds them

Message edited by author 2005-09-11 19:26:08.

09/11/2005 07:27:08 PM · #23

As the post above yours says, I just plugged the camera into the USB port and turned it on and tried again. Same thing. It opens a new tab for a split second and then closes it - no download.

09/11/2005 07:27:51 PM · #24

sent you a pm

Travis99

Canon EOS-5D