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09/04/2005 08:55:24 PM · #1 |
| Is the shadow/highlight adjustment in Photoshop CS legal within the advanced editing rules? |
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09/04/2005 08:56:11 PM · #2 |
Yes, and the basic editing rules.
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09/04/2005 09:52:00 PM · #3 |
Where is the shadow/highlight command in cs2? The manual refers to Photoshop Help. Photoshop Help explains how to use but not where to find it.
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09/04/2005 09:54:13 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Beagleboy:
Where is the shadow/highlight command in cs2? The manual refers to Photoshop Help. Photoshop Help explains how to use but not where to find it. |
Drop down menu Image, Adjustments, Shadow/highlight
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09/04/2005 09:54:19 PM · #5 |
Image, Adjustments, Shadow/Highlight.
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09/04/2005 10:03:57 PM · #6 |
If shadow/highlight in PS CS2 is legal for basic editing, may we now assume that the cntrl-alt-tilde system in PS 7 is legal also? 'Cuz shadow/highlight is just an automation of the other.... I'd hate to think I had to buy a new operating system and upgrade PS to have legal access to this tool I can use by hand in PS 7...
Robt.
Message edited by author 2005-09-04 22:04:47.
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09/04/2005 10:07:17 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
If shadow/highlight in PS CS2 is legal for basic editing, may we now assume that the cntrl-alt-tilde system in PS 7 is legal also? |
Please elaborate for those of us with earlier/other software ... what's that do exactly? |
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09/04/2005 10:17:51 PM · #8 |
| I just recently discovered this adjustment tool and I love it. It basically let's you apply a shadow or highlight without affecting the contrast in the midtone areas. You can selectively bring out details in areas that otherwise are too dark to see the details. When you bring it up, it automatically lightens it and then you use the slider to add the depth of shadows you want. There are other settings also but I haven't had a chance to experiment with them yet. |
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09/04/2005 10:22:51 PM · #9 |
Prior to CS2, I used the highlight slection method to tone down a shot too.
Ctrl-Alt-Tilde(~)
Edit, Copy.
Image, Adjustments, Invert.
Ctrl-J to create a new layer.
Select the layer and set blend mode to screen.
Ctrl-V to paste the highlight previously copied.
Flatten image.
If it's way too flat, the blend mode % can be adjusted if needed.
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09/04/2005 10:24:19 PM · #10 |
great new tool in CS Photoshop!
here is an example of using in the basic challenges
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09/04/2005 10:27:08 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by bear_music:
If shadow/highlight in PS CS2 is legal for basic editing, may we now assume that the cntrl-alt-tilde system in PS 7 is legal also? |
Please elaborate for those of us with earlier/other software ... what's that do exactly? |
If your background layer is active and you hit cntrl-alt-tilde then cntrl-j it generates a gradated highlight mask. Return to BG layer, hit contrl-alt-tilde again, then cntrl-shift-I to invert, and cntrl-j to generate a gradated shadows mask. in a low-contrast situation, multiply the shadows and screen the highlights. In a high-contrast situation, screen the shadows and multiply the highlights. It's a contrast control solutiuon, exactly analogous to the new shadow'highlight adjustment in CS2.
The thing of it is, by the rules it's not legal in basic because it uses other-than-normal layer modes (multiply and screen). But that's exactly what shadow/highlight has automated (or scripted) in CS2; you're just not aware of the layer-mode changes because they are hidden.
This is an issue that bothers me a lot; as PS gains in complexity it makes available automated scripts for things we used to do by hand. The automated processes are accepted as basic-legal where the handwork is not, even though they accomplish the same thing.
I can't afford to upgrade my operating system and PS both to run CS2, no matter how much I'd like to. The current system works fine for me. But basic editing tells me I can't do these adjustments, while the people with CS2 can...
Robt.
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09/04/2005 10:51:54 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
If shadow/highlight in PS CS2 is legal for basic editing, may we now assume that the cntrl-alt-tilde system in PS 7 is legal also? 'Cuz shadow/highlight is just an automation of the other.... I'd hate to think I had to buy a new operating system and upgrade PS to have legal access to this tool I can use by hand in PS 7...
Robt. |
I don't think we can assume that the shadow/highlight tool is an automation of the ctrl-alt-tilde method, though the end results seem to be similar. The ctrl-alt-tilde method explicitly involves making a selection, and use of layers other than adjustment layers, whereas the shadow/highlight tool doesn't.
We do realize that not everyone can upgrade to CS2, however if we disallow tools because they are not available to everyone, then we'll all be working with a very narrow toolset ;-)
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09/04/2005 10:54:53 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by bear_music:
If shadow/highlight in PS CS2 is legal for basic editing, may we now assume that the cntrl-alt-tilde system in PS 7 is legal also? 'Cuz shadow/highlight is just an automation of the other.... I'd hate to think I had to buy a new operating system and upgrade PS to have legal access to this tool I can use by hand in PS 7...
Robt. |
I don't think we can assume that the shadow/highlight tool is an automation of the ctrl-alt-tilde method, though the end results seem to be similar. The ctrl-alt-tilde method explicitly involves making a selection, and use of layers other than adjustment layers, whereas the shadow/highlight tool doesn't.
We do realize that not everyone can upgrade to CS2, however if we disallow tools because they are not available to everyone, then we'll all be working with a very narrow toolset ;-) |
The shadow/highlight adjustment in CS2 CANNOT work unless it differentiates between shadows & highlights. In other words, it makes a selection, whether it's visible or not. The simple solution is not to ban shadow/highlight in CS2 but to specifically allow the cntrl-alt-tilde sequence in earlier photoshop editions.
The thing of it is, cntrl-alt-tilde is a fundamental part of my workflow. Less so now, actually, because i can work from RAW, so I can do that stuff in the RAW editor beforehand, but I still use it a LOT. It's an extremely useful, and in no way extreme, tool. So useful that they gave it a whole dialogue box in CS2 :-)
R.
Message edited by author 2005-09-04 22:56:32.
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09/04/2005 11:22:17 PM · #14 |
| I'm completely with bear on this one (even though I have CS2) |
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