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08/28/2005 05:51:01 PM · #1 |
Decided I would finally ask the question...
are your photos this bad?
Here is what my photos actually look like at actual size. Is there something wrong with my camera or are images just not really meant to be seen in actual size.
If actual size isn't the actual size it looks good at then what is the point of calling it the actual size? I have an 8mp camera but I can't make any gigantic prints or anything. Hell, I'm not even satisfied above a foot or so. What's the deal with this? Do I need to buy a DSLR to get decent looking photographs?
Message edited by author 2005-08-28 17:56:44. |
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08/28/2005 05:57:24 PM · #2 |
| left my thoughts - i'd go back to using your fuji, and return the minolta ;) |
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08/28/2005 05:58:52 PM · #3 |
| Fuji's broken! I liked it much more than the Minolta |
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08/28/2005 06:14:02 PM · #4 |
Not sure if you necessarily need a dSLR, but the quality definitely seems to be lacking in the 100% crop. I'm not sure how other DiMAGE's compare, but this shot looks a bit soft, noisy and lacks contrast.
Are you using a screw-on lens addition on the front? I'm curious as to what's causing the vignetting in the 'full' resized image. If so, I think that may very well be the culprit.
Message edited by author 2005-08-28 18:17:53.
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08/28/2005 06:15:10 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by JPR:
Fuji's broken! I liked it much more than the Minolta |
Oh no!
Want me to smash the minolta for you so you can get another fuji heh. |
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08/28/2005 06:18:49 PM · #6 |
That is a lot of noise, but the sharpness looks about par for most P&S cameras. How far away was this taken from? If the distance was pretty far camera shake may have been an issue as well. Obviously he was moving at the time as well. And... focus may be off.
PS it looks like your lens hood isn't right for your camera (note the black in the corners of the original)
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08/28/2005 06:22:29 PM · #7 |
| sorry to see this, jason. don't know enough about the technicals on your camera, but the marketing description of it makes it sound a lot better than what you're getting. how old is the camera? how many clicks do you have on it? if you aren't happy with a 100% crop and there's nothing you can do about it in-camera, then it's probably the camera. i mean, if you can get a shot that looks perfect at a 100% crop without having to make a lot of pp tweaks, then it may or may not be the camera. |
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08/28/2005 06:22:40 PM · #8 |
Camera problem I think. Can you post some more 100% examples of other subjects?
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08/28/2005 06:39:01 PM · #9 |
There is no good reason for an 8mp camera to be giving you that level of quality at 100%. My 5mp gives me 200% crops just fine, even on automatic. Either there's something wrong with your camera, or there was something going on with this shot that made it very low quality, perhaps your settings were off or the light appeared brighter than it was, leading to the noise issue?
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08/28/2005 06:43:04 PM · #10 |
According to the reviews on dpreview, both the A2 and the A200 have focusing problems from time to time.
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08/28/2005 06:48:19 PM · #11 |
| Yeah JP I get that too, not quite as bad though. Just as sharp but not quite as noisy. I can't/don't usually crop my pictures that close anyway and never really got any huge prints so it doesn't bother me. |
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08/28/2005 06:51:45 PM · #12 |
I think it's in the quality of the lens. I experienced the same thing with my fuji s5100...then with the rebel, I had the same issue with the 75-300 f/4-5.6...
This one was taken with my 80-200 f/2.8 at f/2.8...sharp as a tack even at 100%...
Resized...
100% crop...
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08/28/2005 07:06:47 PM · #13 |
Panasonic FZ5, full zoom=420mm handheld in good light, ISO 80:
Resized: 
Full crop: 
Doesn't look great either (especially the noise), but I think there may be a problem with your camera.
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08/28/2005 07:28:58 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by deapee:
I think it's in the quality of the lens. I experienced the same thing with my fuji s5100...then with the rebel, I had the same issue with the 75-300 f/4-5.6...
This one was taken with my 80-200 f/2.8 at f/2.8...sharp as a tack even at 100%...
Resized...
100% crop...
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dear LORD! I wish I had that much to spend on a lens. I'm about to upgrade to a SLR, and what's scarier than the cost of the body is the cost of all that glass! |
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08/28/2005 07:37:10 PM · #15 |
Here's mine Jason, also an 8mp prosumer camera. Not DSLR quality, but OK. It's got to be a problem with your camera, assuming they're all like that.  |
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08/28/2005 07:55:30 PM · #16 |
thanks for all the responses.
yes, i have a telephoto on which causes the vignetting and some of the poor image quality is due to using it but I feel the image quality is poor regardless. Here is a shot from the same day without the extra lens.
As you can see, it's better (actually it's one of the best i've seen in a while...imagine that...) but it's still not all that great. I do believe it may be a focusing issue because it is an inconsistent problem. Sometimes, on rare occassion, I actually get something that looks decent. I've also heard these minoltas have a problem with that from time to time.
and no, it's not motion blur :)
As it is, i guess i won't be working with the "actual" sizes for a while, so no worries. i just have fun pointing my camera at stuff and i'm not too interested in selling anything...
would like some nice glass one day though if anyone cares to donate their rusty old toys or anything. :P
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08/28/2005 08:20:24 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Quickshutter:
dear LORD! I wish I had that much to spend on a lens. I'm about to upgrade to a SLR, and what's scarier than the cost of the body is the cost of all that glass! |
You can always buy used. A lightly used decent lens isn't going to cost you that much...and as long as you take care of it, in two years, you'll more than likely still be able to sell it for the same amount that you paid for it.
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08/28/2005 09:03:14 PM · #18 |
it could be due to low light conditions. I get similar grainy and softness on both my Sony 707 and Canon D60 when the light is dim.
try a few test out on a very bright day and see if the results are different.
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