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 08/17/2005 06:47:16 AM · #1
How do you request a DQ on a pic that was in a challenge that is over? When you look at the pic in the challenge results, there is no link to do this.
 08/17/2005 07:06:48 AM · #2
I think you just contact SC directly using the Help menu item.
 08/17/2005 07:23:41 AM · #3
Thanks...done.
 08/17/2005 11:15:13 AM · #4
Ok...another question for clarification please:
Looking at the Illusions II and the Time Capsule DQ's, there are ones that are DQ'ed for:

Disqualification Message:
Literal representations of existing artworks, including your own, are not permitted. Please review the challenge submission rules.

So why would a photo of a piece of art, with no interpretation by the photographer, just a straight shot of the artwork, NOT be DQ'ed?
 08/17/2005 11:23:05 AM · #5
I suggest you message someone in SC with the specific photo in question or even post it here if the challenge is over and we can talk about it. :)

Originally posted by Alienyst:
Ok...another question for clarification please:
Looking at the Illusions II and the Time Capsule DQ's, there are ones that are DQ'ed for:

Disqualification Message:
Literal representations of existing artworks, including your own, are not permitted. Please review the challenge submission rules.

So why would a photo of a piece of art, with no interpretation by the photographer, just a straight shot of the artwork, NOT be DQ'ed?

08/17/2005 11:23:44 AM · #6
Originally posted by Alienyst:
So why would a photo of a piece of art, with no interpretation by the photographer, just a straight shot of the artwork, NOT be DQ'ed?


We're just finishing up a Literal Artwork example page to clarify that very question. It should be posted soon.
 08/17/2005 11:31:30 AM · #7
Well...I followed Kaveys advice and used the help button - contact. But since the challenge is over, it is this pic:



Even says what artwork it is a picture of in the description.

Art league gallery pics of same artwork

Message edited by author 2005-08-17 11:39:45.
 08/17/2005 11:36:21 AM · #8
Link to pictures of "Inversion"
(Just in case anyone wondered.)
 08/17/2005 11:36:49 AM · #9
You already requested a DQ on that photo during the challenge.

08/17/2005 11:38:09 AM · #10
No way should this be DQ'd and how classless to request it publicly.
 08/17/2005 11:39:11 AM · #11
I am wrong after reading Laurie's post.

Message edited by author 2005-08-17 11:42:00.
 08/17/2005 11:39:58 AM · #12
There is more in the shot than just a literal representation of the artwork (check the link that KaDi provided, the first picture is more of an example of literal representation of artwork for this particular piece IMHO). There is angle, with the house behind it, sunlight in the corner...it's not just flat-on artwork. That's why it wouldn't be DQ'd for that particular rule. :)
 08/17/2005 11:40:34 AM · #13
Originally posted by TommyMoe21:
No way should this be DQ'd and how classless to request it publicly.


Excuse me but read the thread - the SC above said to post it here.
 08/17/2005 11:40:52 AM · #14
Three dimensional artwork (sculpture, architecture, cars, etc.) is allowed because the photographer chooses a specific point of view, depth of field and lighting that may not be what the artist intended. It's a photogapher's unique view of the artwork.
 08/17/2005 11:41:55 AM · #15
The way I see it is that it was requested during the challenge and was still allowed. End of story. My two cents.
 08/17/2005 11:42:14 AM · #16
Originally posted by mk:
You already requested a DQ on that photo during the challenge.


yes, but all I put for the reason was I knew I had seen the pic before. So I figured since they could probably produce the original with exif it wasn't DQ'ed. Now I have the reason - it is literally the artwork and the site to show.
 08/17/2005 11:42:24 AM · #17
There are shadows and light in this picture that the artist didn't put there.
08/17/2005 11:43:37 AM · #18
Originally posted by scalvert:
Three dimensional artwork (sculpture, architecture, cars, etc.) is allowed because the photographer chooses a specific point of view, depth of field and lighting that may not be what the artist intended. It's a photogapher's unique view of the artwork.


Thanks Scalvert.
 08/17/2005 11:46:20 AM · #19
It seems that 3-D artwork is ok for challenges, from past experiencce, anyway. Only 2-D artwork seems to fall under this rule, and then only in specific situations. Any time the artwork is 3-D, it seems that people can get around the literal representation rule by arguing about time of day, lighting, angle chosen, etc.
 08/17/2005 11:47:41 AM · #20
Originally posted by KaDi:
Link to pictures of "Inversion"
(Just in case anyone wondered.)


Thank for the other link, those are some cool images.

on a side note...I'm glad the literal art issue is being looked at and explained better. There really can be a huge grey area there and should be expained. As for the image in question, yes this can be considered art but is it any different than the Iffel Tower or Statue of Liberty or even the Sears Tower? They are buildings but also art. This could be that grey area I mentioned above.--of course that was just explained in post that arrived while I typed this above stuff. ;)

Message edited by author 2005-08-17 11:49:42.
 08/17/2005 12:31:35 PM · #21
It seems that not only are we needing to stick closer to the challenge descriptions, but now need to be extra careful of what we shoot.

Were is the fun going? :(
 08/17/2005 12:52:21 PM · #22
Originally posted by jrtodd:
It seems that not only are we needing to stick closer to the challenge descriptions, but now need to be extra careful of what we shoot.

Were is the fun going? :(


You don't need to be extra careful of what you shoot, Just don't take a straight on shot of a poster or computer screen. It's also not a rule that you stick closer to the descriptions. It's always been the purpose of DPC to give you a timed challenge, you will not be DQed for not meeting the challenge. After all, that's just a matter of opinion, and with such a world wide audience, we're going to get a LOT of opinions.
In the example posted here...did the creator of the 'artwork' include those shadows or the sky? No, that is the photographers own personal addition to the photo.
Scalvert has put together a great example page that the SC is helping in revising to FURTHER clarify the artwork rule.
It does get frusterating for us sometimes. In the wooden challenge alone, there were 31 DQ requests, most of which were for 'artwork' rule. That's a lot of work for SC that is not needed. We still have to review those and vote on them even though they didn't violate any rules at all. Hopefully this example page will clarify it and help you out, but also help us out as well.

Message edited by author 2005-08-17 12:55:45.
 08/17/2005 12:56:12 PM · #23
Originally posted by hbunch7187:
Originally posted by jrtodd:
It seems that not only are we needing to stick closer to the challenge descriptions, but now need to be extra careful of what we shoot.

Were is the fun going? :(


You don't need to be extra careful of what you shoot. Just don't take a straight on shot of a poster or computer screen.
In the example posted here...did the creator of the 'artwork' include those shadows or the sky? No, that is the photographers own personal addition to the photo.
Scalvert has put together a great example page that the SC is helping in revising to FURTHER clarify the artwork rule.
It does get frusterating for us sometimes. In the wooden challenge alone, there were 31 DQ requests, most of which were for 'artwork' rule. That's a lot of work for SC that is not needed. We still have to review those and vote on them even though they didn't violate any rules at all. Hopefully this example page will clarify it and help you out, but also help us out as well.


When a DQ is requested I feel the person who requested the DQ as well as the reason for the request should be added the Photograph Information.

Message edited by author 2005-08-17 12:56:32.
 08/17/2005 12:59:16 PM · #24
Originally posted by jrtodd:

When a DQ is requested I feel the person who requested the DQ as well as the reason for the request should be added the Photograph Information.


That would really serve no purpose for the general audience. Say Suzie Q thought she saw my photo over at pbase last month, she requests DQ for it, we check it out and alas...it's not the same photo, only similar. Why in the world would you need to know that that transaction happened?
We DO list DQs and why they were DQed. If a photo turns out to be legit...no one needs to even know it was ever questioned. Do they?
 08/17/2005 01:03:42 PM · #25
Originally posted by KaDi:
Link to pictures of "Inversion"
(Just in case anyone wondered.)


If this picture should be DQ'd than my picture in the Wood challenge should be DQ'd as well. I gave this shot alot of thought before I entered it for that exact reason. Please read my photographers comments in the details section of the entry. Even though the picture did not do very well I really liked the colors and depth as well as the subject matter of this artists carvings.
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