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07/25/2002 11:57:33 AM · #76
Originally posted by karmat:
KD -- it's cropped a little too tightly on either side, and the background is not good. Also, his color seems a little flat.

:-) (just messin' wit ya)


LOL :) such familiar words......
07/25/2002 12:11:51 PM · #77
After getting 4 PM's from people who were concerned that they may have offended me with their comments on my photo or in this thread, I thought it might be wise to ease everyone's conscience. I am not offended by anything that's been said in the least and I hope I've not offended any of you in the meantime. It's all in good fun, right?!
07/25/2002 12:20:14 PM · #78
Originally posted by Lisa:
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
[i]Lisa,

I thought that was a kidnap victim. LOL.. the little white ''socks'', plus the title made me think of a silence of the lambs version of ''loved'' :


Okay, now I can't figure out who's more twisted. You people for coming up with these sick interpretations of what my kermi is or me for sleeping with this 'thing.' Either way...we're all sick/in need of therapy.
:P~~~~[/i]
Gotcha, you've been permanently etched in my mind as the guy who goes around saying "I would/wouldn't sleep with that." You crack me up.

Hey---- I NEVER slept with Kermi....we were just friends.
07/26/2002 08:23:15 AM · #79
Originally posted by Lisa:
*Very very strange shot -- what is it?

Well hey -- that sounds like MY comment. MINUS two sentences. I did leave contsructive words after my initial thought. Why'd you leave those out?


07/26/2002 08:36:26 AM · #80
I''m terribly offended. The only thing that''s going to make it better is if everyone who participated in this thread gets spanked now by Kermie.

Originally posted by Lisa:
After getting 4 PM''s from people who were concerned that they may have offended me with their comments on my photo or in this thread, I thought it might be wise to ease everyone''s conscience. I am not offended by anything that''s been said in the least and I hope I''ve not offended any of you in the meantime. It''s all in good fun, right?!



* This message has been edited by the author on 7/26/2002 8:36:37 AM.
07/26/2002 08:46:23 AM · #81
Originally posted by langdon:
Originally posted by Lisa:
[i]*Very very strange shot -- what is it?


Well hey -- that sounds like MY comment. MINUS two sentences. I did leave contsructive words after my initial thought. Why'd you leave those out?


[/i]

Oh will this thread ever die??? Sorry Langdon et al...I was only putting partial comments out there to illustrate my point that people had an incredibly different view of Kermi than I did. I was not knocking or complaining about your comment or any other. I didn't mean to misrepresent anyone by only including partial comments. Just to be fair...here's the complete unabridged list of comments (all valuable and none of which I'm complaining about).

7/25/2002 (11:48:51 PM) - So finally I get to 'Kermit':) Yes, I can see where the titile might be a bit ambiguous and allow some people to think too much.

7/25/2002 (8:03:03 PM) - The lighting is good, but the subject freaks me out...I really did think someone was in there!...no matter how I laughed at the comments in the forum! :-) Karen Bryan

7/25/2002 (4:59:24 PM) - what the hell is this? It looks like a person wrapped in a potato sack.. not exactly what I would call a "loved" posture!

7/24/2002 (8:55:07 PM) - Hmmmm, Mr. Kermi, Latin= Phuntus Manamus - I wouldn't sleep with this thing (with all due respect to the Kerminator). - Good luck Lisa

7/24/2002 (6:00:25 PM) - Lisa, I am commenting after reading "the thread". I started this shot with a 7. Not knowing what it was, didn't really matter to me. This shot has everything I look for in B&W (dislike the concept, but it's too popular to bad mouth often), the shot has great contrast, sharp/clear focus. On that issue, it's VERY NICE. The outer covering shows good detail, so the texture is very obvious. On the humorous side, even with your "explaination", I still don't see the frog! Because this shot has been discussed at legnth, during the voting, I am going to NOT change my original scoring. You started with a 7, end with a 7. Swash

7/24/2002 (3:59:20 PM) - You know... my wife SAID this was a frog... I'm not going to scare you with the list of what I thought it was. I gave it a 7 before I saw the thread and I'll leave it there. I liked the backlite (though the window doesn't really help)... Tell you what though, I'll give it an 8 if you promise never to post the color version :) Sounds real scary ~ But that's just me

7/24/2002 (3:38:19 PM) - I had no clue until you posted in the forums. I'm still not sure . . . . . . hahaha Black and white works well, I think, and other aspects of the picture are good too. It's just a weird subject. :-) karmat

7/24/2002 (2:35:22 PM) - Composition 6 Originality 9 Technical Aspects 5 Meets Challenge 4 Total Score 6 For those that are just learning, like me. Composition: Scoring in this area is based on basic composition of a picture and includes the rule of thirds, balance, cropping, and curved and diagonal lines. Subject matter that does not lend itself to the picture or otherwise unwanted is also considered here. Originality: Scoring in this area is based on pictures or concepts that I have seen, as well as how much effort you have invested in the picture. Usually a little something that sets it aside from a snapshot. Does it make me want to come back for another look? You know things like that. Technical Aspects: Focus, exposure, lighting, and other special effects (done by the camera), and post processing are all considered in this category. Meets Challenge: This is based on my interpretation of if you, have/have not, met the challenge. This is fairly simple but quite important for this site. There are many sites that can give you assistance in achieving better skills in photography, but I think the best way to learn is to take pictures and show them to other people. Believe me when it is a good one you will know it. Good luck! Autool

7/24/2002 (1:43:22 PM) - Okay, NOW I see that it's sorta kinda a frog!! LOL 6

7/24/2002 (1:36:16 PM) - I wonder if he talks to the other toys, ala Velveteen Rabbit? Seriously, its a well-lit photo of a treasured item with a variety of textures. You can even seethe lumpy insides! The detail is definitely there. I am scoring it in the middle though, because it lacks punch. Do you know what I mean? I keep thinking if there was a child's hand extending into the photo as if leaving the froggie behind or something. It's hard to put my finger on to what would make this POP like some of the other photos do this week. The photo is well-executed technically to my eye. crisa58

7/24/2002 (4:48:34 AM) - this is almost disturbing after seeing a tool cd

7/23/2002 (6:57:57 PM) - interesting concept... the lighting is also nice, but the subject just isn't pulling my attention... = 5 - jmsetzler

7/23/2002 (3:06:32 PM) - Interesting shape. It reminds me or Mr. Potato-head. Nice tones to the B&W. I don't think your choice of background is effective...maybe something plainer than the blinds or a different angle to crop them out. I hope this is a stuffed doll of some sort, cause if it's a cut-up person in a burlap sack and that's your defition of "loved" I'll be really scared :-)

7/23/2002 (9:21:57 AM) - While I see texture in the photo, texture is certainly not the first thing that would come to mind.

7/23/2002 (4:11:14 AM) - would love to know what's going on here

7/22/2002 (6:28:53 PM) - Not sure I understand this one. Blinds in background are distracting.

7/22/2002 (6:02:34 PM) - good contrast but what is it? - I read your thread and now know what it is - it does look like a kidnapping victim!

7/22/2002 (4:02:31 PM) - cool, creepy, different, strange.........I love this. Kee

7/22/2002 (3:15:55 PM) - What the heck IS this?

7/22/2002 (10:16:37 AM) - Very very strange shot -- what is it? The black and white adds more mystery. As far as texture goes though I think more detail is needed.

7/22/2002 (9:38:02 AM) - really bizarre. great light, tho, and very sharp.

7/22/2002 (9:27:15 AM) - The window blinds are very distracting,they mess up a really nice picture. Of something.

7/22/2002 (1:34:21 AM) - Don't understand. Sorry.

Now can we put this thread to bed?
07/26/2002 08:50:49 AM · #82
LISA
You get as little sleep as I DO

At least you can''t complain that you didn''d get enough comments.

Hey what ever happened to deer guy?
I''ll bet he went back to hunting, its safer than this cut throat place(just kidding)

* This message has been edited by the author on 7/26/2002 8:53:03 AM.
07/26/2002 09:05:13 AM · #83
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
I''m terribly offended. The only thing that''s going to make it better is if everyone who participated in this thread gets spanked now by Kermie.

Originally posted by Lisa:
[i]After getting 4 PM''s from people who were concerned that they may have offended me with their comments on my photo or in this thread, I thought it might be wise to ease everyone''s conscience. I am not offended by anything that''s been said in the least and I hope I''ve not offended any of you in the meantime. It''s all in good fun, right?!


[/i]

You really do want to be spanked by Kermi, don't you? :P
07/26/2002 09:06:46 AM · #84
Originally posted by TerryGee:
LISA
You get as little sleep as I DO

At least you can''t complain that you didn''d get enough comments.

Hey what ever happened to deer guy?
I''ll bet he went back to hunting, its safer than this cut throat place(just kidding


Nope...can't complain about lack of comments. You're right...that 'deer guy' is probably in a much safer place. :P
07/26/2002 09:17:53 AM · #85
Originally posted by Lisa:
You really do want to be spanked by Kermi, don't you? :P

Who doesn't?

-Terry


07/26/2002 09:40:41 AM · #86
Yes, he is alive.
Olympus C-700, no extra lenses.

I got my new camera 3 weeks ago, and the bird park was the first place I went (After Robben Island, where ex-President Nelson Mandela was held for 28 years, and the Cape Town waterfront).

He is a young bird that was kicked out of the nest by his mother and raised by humans. He was sitting on a stump, just watching me. I don't know who was more intruged, me or him. He gave me lots of time to get my camera into macro, play with settings and composition. I think I took about 30 pictures of him. (I'll put them somewhere on a website over this weekend).

He kept following me around, as if he wanted me to take more pictures. At time it seemed as if he wanted to jump unto my camera/arm. I did not trust that beak and his sharp claws, so stepped back a little.

I'm really new in photography and intend to read a "photography for dummies" book over the next few days. I appreciate all of your comments.
Thank you.
07/26/2002 10:14:21 AM · #87
Originally posted by Point:
Yes, he is alive.
Olympus C-700, no extra lenses.

I got my new camera 3 weeks ago, and the bird park was the first place I went (After Robben Island, where ex-President Nelson Mandela was held for 28 years, and the Cape Town waterfront).

He is a young bird that was kicked out of the nest by his mother and raised by humans. He was sitting on a stump, just watching me. I don't know who was more intruged, me or him. He gave me lots of time to get my camera into macro, play with settings and composition. I think I took about 30 pictures of him. (I'll put them somewhere on a website over this weekend).

He kept following me around, as if he wanted me to take more pictures. At time it seemed as if he wanted to jump unto my camera/arm. I did not trust that beak and his sharp claws, so stepped back a little.

I'm really new in photography and intend to read a "photography for dummies" book over the next few days. I appreciate all of your comments.
Thank you.


It's a beautiful photo... good work :) I scored it accordingly :)
07/26/2002 10:19:12 AM · #88
point, i have to agree, it is a beautiful shot that you submitted. and i know it's also hard to believe after reading this thread, but we usually try and not reveal who took what photo until the voting is over. :) although that seems to be under discussion, too (see other threads)...
07/26/2002 10:53:49 AM · #89
Yes, Point. Please don't reveal your photo until after the voting is over. People can wait a whole week to find out if the bird is alive or not.



Originally posted by gr8photos:
point, i have to agree, it is a beautiful shot that you submitted. and i know it's also hard to believe after reading this thread, but we usually try and not reveal who took what photo until the voting is over. :) although that seems to be under discussion, too (see other threads)...

07/26/2002 01:44:07 PM · #90
If someone were too submit a photo in one of our contests, of Loch Ness, Big Foot, or an Alien from another world. Instead of it being a new scientific discovery, I can hear our photo colony saying, "snapshot".
07/26/2002 01:56:24 PM · #91
It depends how well it was taken.(composition, lighting,etc)
Are you comparing aliens to deer?
07/26/2002 01:57:43 PM · #92
Originally posted by bobgaither:
If someone were too submit a photo in one of our contests, of Loch Ness, Big Foot, or an Alien from another world. Instead of it being a new scientific discovery, I can hear our photo colony saying, "snapshot".


rotflol!!

Bob, I can appreciate your photo in many ways. Since my husband is a deer hunter and I usually hunt a couple of times each year myself, I know how difficult it is to come across these lovely animals. I could never call a photo of a deer in the wild a "snapshot". Also, a photo of a deer in velvet most definately qualifies as a texture photo.
07/26/2002 02:20:29 PM · #93
Originally posted by bobgaither:
If someone were too submit a photo in one of our contests, of Loch Ness, Big Foot, or an Alien from another world. Instead of it being a new scientific discovery, I can hear our photo colony saying, "snapshot".

Bob, It''s a free country. People have a right to their opinion and you have the right to heed those comments or ignore them. However, if one consistently gets similar comments, there is a great opportunity to learn from them and improve.

Besides, these challenges are not about documenting scientific discoveries and such but about photographic endeavors. If you were to lay out $ 20 million to become a space tourist and you were to submit a technically so-so picture taken on that trip, you should not get rewarded with 10s simply because you submit a unique opportunity shot.





* This message has been edited by the author on 7/26/2002 2:27:02 PM.
07/26/2002 03:09:11 PM · #94
Originally posted by bobgaither:
If someone were too submit a photo in one of our contests, of Loch Ness, Big Foot, or an Alien from another world. Instead of it being a new scientific discovery, I can hear our photo colony saying, "snapshot".

Actually, I think that Kermi fits into the catagory of the Loch Ness moster, BigFoot AND an Alien, and I didn't see the word snapshot in any of the comments about him :)

07/26/2002 04:34:09 PM · #95
AHoooo Sheeezzze, This thread still lives - I almost expect to see parts of this thread in the Star magazine when I'm in line at the gracery store this weekend. (way to go Bobgaither, look what youve done). :)
07/26/2002 04:52:29 PM · #96
Originally posted by bobgaither:
If someone were too submit a photo in one of our contests, of Loch Ness, Big Foot, or an Alien from another world. Instead of it being a new scientific discovery, I can hear our photo colony saying, "snapshot".

Bob, in the free study I gave a critique on the photo that placed 3rd in that challenge. "Falling into a Dream" by timj351. I was bold enough to make the comment that aspects of his photo gave me the feeling of a "snapshot". (I certianly ment no disrespect for the quality of the shot, and I'm hoping he was not offended by my opinion. - He in return gave me this critique (one of the critiques that was most valuable to me in the future, because he was right) - timj351 - 7/18/2002
Did you squeeze this photo to fit the proportions? That is a real no no in my book. It is still pretty cool with lots of neat details.

I have used the term snapshot many times - I think of it as trying to view a beautiful sculpture as a piece of clay. I'm supposed to give an opinion on how it might be better "in my mind"
(by the way timj351 - Thank you for the valuable feedback- you were right , I tweeked it).
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