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07/27/2005 12:03:39 PM · #76
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

Clean your sensor once a week or so to make sure there is no dust. Do the same thing to your lens surfaces. This way you can participate in weekly challenges with strict editing rules and not have to worry about spots. You can also expect to replace your camera in a year or less when the sensor fails. You will probaby make some nice soft focus lenses out of what you have now also.


Given your post, I take it it must be bad for the sensor to clean it? I've never read this, but am curious if this is indeed true (of course it makes sense, if you're wiping something across the sensor over and over). Never considered that (maybe it's a good thing I've never cleaned mine!)
07/27/2005 12:05:43 PM · #77
B

(What dust? neh-neh-ne-neh)
07/27/2005 12:08:37 PM · #78
A
07/27/2005 12:29:53 PM · #79
Would I be able to edit this smudge on my chip?



I vote B.

As much as I wish I could clone that out of my shot, I don't think its practical to ask SC to validate all of those images. That could really get out of control. Just imagine all the threads griping about their DQs and why it wasn't fair.
07/27/2005 12:52:11 PM · #80
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

Clean your sensor once a week or so to make sure there is no dust. Do the same thing to your lens surfaces.


A little extreme, don't you think? I clean my sensor about once every 6-12 months.


/me hands scalvert the snark filter goggles for a better look.
07/27/2005 12:55:20 PM · #81
Originally posted by mk:

/me hands scalvert the snark filter goggles for a better look.


Oooh... there IS some kind of smudge on my sensor, but I can't seem to get it off. ;-)

07/27/2005 12:57:12 PM · #82
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by mk:

/me hands scalvert the snark filter goggles for a better look.


Oooh... there IS some kind of smudge on my sensor, but I can't seem to get it off. ;-)



Quick...Put it on Ebay!
07/27/2005 12:57:43 PM · #83
A, or atleast ingnore it juring the vote, come on... everyone slips sometime
07/27/2005 01:07:34 PM · #84
B

DPC members have shown time and again the floodgates open pretty fast with a tiny crack...edit out the sensor dust...soon they'll be editing out the rock that's screwing up their composition...
07/27/2005 01:45:45 PM · #85
Originally posted by brianlh:

Given your post, I take it it must be bad for the sensor to clean it? I've never read this, but am curious if this is indeed true (of course it makes sense, if you're wiping something across the sensor over and over). Never considered that (maybe it's a good thing I've never cleaned mine!)

Actually yoou are cleaning the glass (or whatever) cover over the sensor. I guess if you think that cleaning a car windshield monthly will effect the transparency of it, then don't clean it.
07/27/2005 01:59:06 PM · #86
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

Clean your sensor once a week or so to make sure there is no dust. Do the same thing to your lens surfaces.


A little extreme, don't you think? I clean my sensor about once every 6-12 months. I do clean the lenses more often, but I do so gently with a lens pen or a little Eclipse on a pec pad. There is no need to keep your sensor totally clean for basic challenges, as the voters tend to look beyond that (Heida's latest ribbon).


It's very extreme and it was mostly tongue in cheek. My overall point is, basically, that the 'advanced' editing rules should simply become the overall site rules. One set of rules for everyone.
07/27/2005 02:08:42 PM · #87
b
07/27/2005 02:16:49 PM · #88
a=17 b=35 ?=1 C=1

(just a quick count so don't yell if I'm off by one!)
07/27/2005 02:17:08 PM · #89
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by mk:

/me hands scalvert the snark filter goggles for a better look.


Oooh... there IS some kind of smudge on my sensor, but I can't seem to get it off. ;-)



ROFLMAO!!!!

07/27/2005 02:18:24 PM · #90
B clean sensor or buy olympus E-300 with auto sensor cleaning.
07/27/2005 02:18:30 PM · #91
we all love status quo :)
07/27/2005 02:28:44 PM · #92
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

we all love status quo :)

Perhaps you'll have a more positive outlook if we refer to it as equilibrium.

There's a reason it got to be the status quo, you know. And I've noticed that the people usually in favor of changing it are not those responsible for dealing with the consequences.

I'd rather see some change and experimentation in the artistic content of the photos than tinker with the rules.
07/27/2005 02:50:55 PM · #93
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

we all love status quo :)

Perhaps you'll have a more positive outlook if we refer to it as equilibrium.

There's a reason it got to be the status quo, you know. And I've noticed that the people usually in favor of changing it are not those responsible for dealing with the consequences.

I'd rather see some change and experimentation in the artistic content of the photos than tinker with the rules.


Why bother with something like that when the image can't be 'finished' properly?
07/27/2005 02:55:36 PM · #94
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

we all love status quo :)

Quite right, Setz..

07/27/2005 03:01:02 PM · #95
Well, that's the breaks with the Open Challenges, you can clone out all the dust you want in the Advanced Challenges.

The Basic Rules challenges, open for free to anyone who registers, are primarily a vehicle for newer photographers to submit works-in-progress, to gain experience and knowledge from their peers using the format of a friendly competition. That they might serve to showcase the skills and talents of established photographers is an incidental (and perhaps unintended) consequence.

I don't think making it easier for experienced photographers to win ribbons is a good thing for carrying out the the primary function of the Open Challenges.
07/27/2005 03:03:39 PM · #96
Originally posted by GeneralE:

I don't think making it easier for experienced photographers to win ribbons is a good thing for carrying out the the primary function of the Open Challenges.


exactly right
07/27/2005 03:17:35 PM · #97
Originally posted by hopper:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

I don't think making it easier for experienced photographers to win ribbons is a good thing for carrying out the the primary function of the Open Challenges.


exactly right


i never realized cloning out a speck of dust was an experienced skill.
07/27/2005 03:19:02 PM · #98
My knee jerk reaction was to say "A"...but then again, I tend to be honest to a fault.
Then I thought, "B"! Despite the slippery slope argument concerning SC workload, I know that some people will take advantage of any opportunity to "enhance" their work. What if the spot just happened to be placed over a distracting element?

But the strangest thought then occurred to me: My! How far we've come from arguing for "straight from the camera" challenges! It was mentioned before in this thread, there is a beginner-level intent to the Open Challenges---how would "beginners" ever learn about sensor dust and how to (properly) cope with it if this revision were allowed?

I, too, change lenses frequently and the last time out made the mistake of switching lenses in a field of wild flowers under a slight breeze. I contracted more than the usual sensor dust spots. At home, they were quickly blown away with my rocket blower--not so quickly edited from my image. (BTW, I have never, in 1.5 years, taken a swab to my sensor.) Good habits should be developed from the beginning.

Shooting without thinking, is like sex without protection. =o
07/27/2005 03:36:11 PM · #99
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Message edited by author 2005-07-28 19:36:18.
07/27/2005 03:43:43 PM · #100
Originally posted by GeneralE:



I don't think making it easier for experienced photographers to win ribbons is a good thing for carrying out the the primary function of the Open Challenges.


OK... I just hadn't seen any guidelines describing the primary functions of the open and member challenges until today :)
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