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06/12/2005 03:45:55 AM · #1
I'm looking at upgrading to a D70s is the 18/70 a good performer, A friend has recommended the 28/105 as being optically better. any thoughts on this from anyone with either lens.
06/12/2005 03:51:56 AM · #2
I don't really like the kit lens. If I could go back in time I would have paid more, without question to get a sharper lens.

A 28/105 would probably be a great all around lens.
06/12/2005 05:20:18 AM · #3
I really like the kit lens, especially the 18 mm gives you lots of possibilities. It is a good, fast, silent, versatile all round lens and certainly when bought as a kit, worth the money.

It is also really sharp in my opinion, but you better read some tests for a more objective judgement.
06/12/2005 06:24:53 AM · #4
Excellent lens the 18-70. You have to pay a lot of cash to get a better qualaty one. It is very good. Someone has gotten a broken one, because mine is very good. Not has sharp has my Nikkor 50mm f1.8, but again it is a reference in the market. So it is very good and I use it for professional uses.
06/12/2005 06:52:16 AM · #5
I really like my 18-70 too, would certainly not part with it :)
06/12/2005 08:17:08 AM · #6
Originally posted by willem:

I really like the kit lens, especially the 18 mm gives you lots of possibilities. It is a good, fast, silent, versatile all round lens and certainly when bought as a kit, worth the money.

It is also really sharp in my opinion, but you better read some tests for a more objective judgement.


I'm a fan of this lens too. I use it for all my landscape and Infrared shots.
06/12/2005 08:32:41 AM · #7
The 18-70 is a nice lens for the price, certainly if you buy it with the kit (as I did).

If you want to improve it there are many who recommend the following:

Sigma 18-50 f2.8 Inexpensive and a clear improvement on the kit lens, but shorter reach.
Nikon 17-55 dx f2.8 Very expensive, but by all accounts also very nice.
Nikon 28-70 f2.8 Very expensive, good portrait lens ("wedding lens")
Tamron 28-70 Xr Di f2.8 Inexpensive, nice protrait lens, but no AF-S or similar so focus is slow (not an action lens!)

On the tele end there are lots of choices too, from the Nikon VR lenses (read expensive) to the low end Nikon/Sigma/Tamron etc for around $100.

Check dpreview.com forums (there is a Nikon SLR Lens forum) for more info.

HÃ¥kon
06/12/2005 09:32:29 AM · #8
Originally posted by kiwinick:

I'm looking at upgrading to a D70s is the 18/70 a good performer, A friend has recommended the 28/105 as being optically better. any thoughts on this from anyone with either lens.

As a all around lense I could not use 28/105 since it has no wide angle. It would go fine on Nikon film camarea as a all around lens but not on D70 since you have to multiply with the 1.5 crop factor.

28/105 work as a 42/158
but
18/70 work as a 27/105

I have the 18-70 and think it is a great lens.

And for Nikon lens you should read Ken Rockwell

Message edited by author 2005-06-12 09:35:15.
06/12/2005 11:19:51 AM · #9
Originally posted by ergates:

...Tamron 28-70 Xr Di f2.8 Inexpensive, nice protrait lens, but no AF-S or similar so focus is slow (not an action lens!)...


This is not necassarily true. I think this a very good all-around lens. All these motocross photos were shot with the Tamron indoors in low light. I think it did a pretty good job with action photos.

The problem with shooting action photos with the D70 is not the Tamron lens, but the AF speed of the camera itself. The new firmware upgrade (or D70s) should help a bit, but it's not a D2X. =)

The kit lens is very good. I had it on my camera all the time until I got the Tamron. I still use it when I need to shoot wide angle.
06/12/2005 11:32:16 AM · #10
Originally posted by kiwinick:

I'm looking at upgrading to a D70s is the 18/70 a good performer, A friend has recommended the 28/105 as being optically better. any thoughts on this from anyone with either lens.


Originally posted by pawdrix:

A 28/105 would probably be a great all around lens.


I have both 18-70 and 28-105 Nikkor lenses, and I like them both. 28-105 was my all around lens in my old film Nikon days, but i think it is too long for that with 1.5 conversion ratio. Still use it for macros (it has a switch) and portraits. 18-70 works great as a walk around lens for me. It definitely has a better AF (fast and silent) than 28/105, and optically and mechanically it is very good, IMO.

Message edited by author 2005-06-12 11:33:25.
06/12/2005 11:54:00 AM · #11
I am seriously thinking in getting a 24-120mm VR as a all-around lens and for indoor with low light. check it here

I've heard goood things about it and for a VR lens it is not very expensive. But you have to keep in mind that you only can take part of the VR in stactic subjects, so it is not for action shoots.
06/12/2005 12:40:17 PM · #12
What do you mean the VR is not for action shoots?

These SuperCross photos were taken with the Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR with the VR on.

The VR helps with whatever you are shooting, especially if you are shooting zoomed out and at slower shutter speeds.
06/12/2005 12:56:46 PM · #13
I can't seem to get consistantly sharp images with the 18-70, as I was warned of by the two D70 owners (both professional photographers since the late 70's) who recommended that I buy the camera. They too have issues with the sharpness as do many others that I've met shooting in the parks.

I occasionaly do well with the lens but I am curious what those of you who like the lens do to get sharp images. Any tricks? Prefered ranges that consistanly deliver? I desperately need to figure it out.

Message edited by author 2005-06-12 12:57:46.
06/12/2005 01:02:20 PM · #14
Originally posted by pawdrix:

I can't seem to get consistantly sharp images with the 18-70, as I was warned of by the two D70 owners (both professional photographers since the late 70's) who recommended that I buy the camera. They too have issues with the sharpness as do many others that I've met shooting in the parks.

I occasionaly do well with the lens but I am curious what those of you who like the lens do to get sharp images. Any tricks? Prefered ranges that consistanly deliver? I desperately need to figure it out.


Always use the hood - not sure but I think that the 18-70 is very sensitive to 'invading' light, which in turn leads to non-sharp images
06/12/2005 01:10:34 PM · #15
That sounds like it makes sense. I'll give it a try.
06/12/2005 03:24:49 PM · #16
Thanks Guys it looks as if with most of you its a winner, soc when I buy I'll likely go with it .
06/12/2005 03:47:30 PM · #17
It's also a heck of a value when you consider that most places are doing the kit for $999 here in the US. If you buy that lens seperate, it's around $400.

Not a bad deal at all.

Clara
06/14/2005 12:46:27 PM · #18
I also love my 18-70. I shot a night picture of the arch in St. Louis with it. Cropped it, and then had it blown up to a 16x20. Looks great.

I was told; "Why buy a Nikon and then use 3rd party lenses? If you are going to do that, just go buy any (cheaper)camera."

It may be old fashioned to say but I believe it.

Message edited by author 2005-06-14 12:47:24.
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