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Sony 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 E-mount

06/06/2005 06:05:59 PM · #51

That's too funny. I was thinking that maybe his zoom lenses were too big to get anything in the shot that close other than the jockey's nose..but wouldn't he just have a wide angle lens? LOL Either way, 'tis funny!

And does'nt look oversharp to my eyes.

jmsetzler

Sony Alpha a6000

06/06/2005 06:10:59 PM · #52

Originally posted by GoldBerry:

People are more than welcome to search online and contact whomever they choose and ask whatever they'd like (I sometimes get emails like that, they're cool actually) but when I'm working? Come on...

I don't shoot weddings but i run into this same sort of chit chat when i'm shooting sports. I had a very similar situation to yours happen just a couple months ago at a basketball game. Some guy told me that his sony 818 was a better setup than mine, had more zoom, and was higher resolution. I just told him he should go pro :)

bfox2

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

06/06/2005 06:20:04 PM · #53

I think that P&S cameras can have a place for professionals too, like that article on the other page. I read an article about a fellow who spent a long time in Africa photographing various tribes using a TLR (twin lens reflex) 35mm camera, which you focus by looking down on much like a P&S camera with the screen folded out. This can have several advantages, some of which are not obscuring your face (making you less intimidating) and also makeing the subject look more heroic (depending on how far down your holding the camera).

I had a powershot G5 before I switched to the Rebel, and the main reasons I did so were simply faster/accurate low-light focus, and more zoom capabilities, both of which were becasue I like to photograph wildlife which is hard to do with P&S. Although there are the differences people don't understand, alot of it really depends on what you're going to use it for.

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM II

06/06/2005 06:20:46 PM · #54

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

I just told him he should go pro :)

LOL

I would never walk up to someone with a p-n-s and me swinging around my SLR just to say "mine's better than yours!". I mean - really. I may be a nutjob sometimes, but I'm not a tool.

colyla

Canon EOS-50D

06/06/2005 06:27:04 PM · #55

[quote=crabappl3] When I have my D2X and 50-500 on it, I don't seem to get this kind of reaction. I think that maybe you just need to carry a Nikon instead... after all, it's what all the pros use! :-p

-danny

Okay...everyone with Canons and others, band together....and jump on this guy!!! :)

Apple iPhone

Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX Aspherical DF for Nikon

06/06/2005 06:31:11 PM · #56

Gets on the NIKON bandwagon

Originally posted by colyla:

moswyn

Canon EOS-7D

Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 EX DC for Canon

06/06/2005 07:08:48 PM · #57

I was at a sporting event where I was not supposed to use a flash and had a gal with a P&S come up to me. She looked my equipment over and then proudly announced, "My camera has a flash!"

At another event, I had a gal with a digital Rebel come up and ask me "Do you know how to work these things?"

Message edited by author 2005-06-06 19:10:06.

brianlh

Canon EOS-450D Rebel XSi

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

06/06/2005 07:20:52 PM · #58

Originally posted by doctornick:

Ahem....Here's what REAl pros use ;) :P

...and HERE ;o)

Check this guy out, sporting his gigantor Nikon lens.

Message edited by author 2005-06-06 19:22:16.

Artyste

Sony Ericsson W810i

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Pentax

06/06/2005 07:56:39 PM · #59

Originally posted by doctornick:

Ahem....Here's what REAl pros use ;) :P

...and HERE ;o)

If I ever get to a point like that with photography, feel free to shoot me and put me out of my misery. That's almost a bastardization of what photography is really about.

kyebosh

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 80-200mm f/2.8L

06/06/2005 08:00:43 PM · #60

There's nothing wrong with a 1200mm lens...

Jewellian

Pentax *ist DL

Sigma 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical HF for Pentax

06/06/2005 08:16:42 PM · #61

Originally posted by doctornick:

Originally posted by crabappl3:
...I think that maybe you just need to carry a Nikon instead... after all, it's what all the pros use! :-p

-danny

Ahem....Here's what REAl pros use ;) :P

...and HERE ;o)

we're looking at QUALITY, not quantity...... ;)

faidoi

Pentax K10D

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

06/06/2005 09:14:05 PM · #62

Originally posted by pitsaman:

This one is done from 30 yards away :

Try this with snapshot cam and you will be lunch to this beast :-)

taken with my Sony S70

Donaldo

Nikon D1H

Sigma 14mm f/3.5 for Nikon

06/06/2005 09:41:53 PM · #63

People always ask me what MP size is your D1H ? Answer 2.7 . Gets blank looks from said people. My little PnS gets me 5.0 MP. Then they gets blank look from me. Thats usualy the end of the conversation?

TooCool

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

06/06/2005 10:05:32 PM · #64

Originally posted by GoldBerry:

LOL or maybe it's cause you're a guy and I'm a gal. I wasn't even wearing anything revealing. LOL. I can't go anywhere without men (always men) asking about my "equipment" *giggle*. The girl who was with me yesterday said it was obvious I was uncomfortable with the conversations - why don't men pick up on that? I guess for the same reasons they do'nt understand when you're trying to ignore them at a bar ;-)

Women TRY to ignore us at the bar? And all this time I thought the music was too loud...

coolhar

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

06/06/2005 10:50:12 PM · #65

Originally posted by GoldBerry:

Thanks GoldBerry.

jmsetzler

Sony Alpha a6000

Sony 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 E-mount

06/06/2005 10:58:59 PM · #66

Originally posted by GoldBerry:

Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I just told him he should go pro :)

LOL

I would never walk up to someone with a p-n-s and me swinging around my SLR just to say "mine's better than yours!". I mean - really. I may be a nutjob sometimes, but I'm not a tool.

It's just annoying to me (most of the time) when someone walks up and wants to chat while I'm working. What they wanna talk about is usually irrelevant. The chit chat i usually get is related to what i'm doing rather than what I'm doing it with. Parents want to tell me how great THEIR kid is and how we need to run his/her photo rather than the superstars we always cover. They want to tell me how the like/dislike the sports editor at the paper. They wanna know why we don't cover swimming, volleyball, badminton, chess, science club, beta club, home-ec conventions, and Cletus Ledbetter's new John Deere. Some of them want to tell me about their camera gear that they left at home.

Your issue with the length of the lens is one that is common. People often wanna know why I am only shooting with 200mm. It takes too long to explain to someone who needs to ask. If I tell them it's only 200mm but it's an f/2.8 lens, they give me a stupid look and ask me if i think it's gonna rain tomorrow.

One of the things that differentiates what I'm doing and what you are doing is that I'm not gonna run into as many inquisitive people. I'm generally shooting from positions where the average joe isn't gonna or can't walk up to me at a sporting event.

The question I loved to get asked is:

Hello Sir. ( I hate being called sir cause it makes me feel old). Will you give us some photos for our yearbook? This camera they gave me to shoot with sucks and I can't get any good photos of these events.

I never push a student away.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

06/07/2005 10:37:10 AM · #67

Yea that last comment is a good one. Nice kid, good reason to talk to you. Pat him on the head and say "yes lad, I can help" and then kick him in the ass and tell him never to call you 'sir' again. I'm 24 and I get called ma'am. WHat the ---???

dockode

06/07/2005 11:05:59 AM · #68

Originally posted by doctornick:

Why do I have to be poor... I feel so small now... and I was so happy with my 350D... :(

LoveSpuds

Canon EOS-550D Rebel T2i

06/07/2005 11:42:21 AM · #69

There is a really good program on BBC4 (in the UK) called A Digital Picture of Britain.

//www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/features/digital-picture-britain.shtml

The first episode was on last Sunday and featured 3 top landscape photographers, each were given different equipment and assignments.

Joe Cornish was given a Camera-Phone to capture his stuff, and it really showed that photography is about ability and not equipment, the stuff he captured on a 1mp phone were still superb compositionally.

One funny thing though, at one point he mounted the phone on a HUGE tripod, looked really funny, and I bet he got a few odd looks.

I must say though, I started with a Sony P&S and only put up with it for a few months, I then upgraded to a Nikon 5700, and this really was a top camera. But I must concede that nothing compares with my SLR, it makes portraiture of children (something I do a lot of) much easier.

Message edited by author 2005-06-07 11:45:16.

jpochard

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

06/07/2005 12:09:05 PM · #70

I've had my 717 for two years now and I am just starting to get a bit disappointed with its limitations. It will be quite some time before I can move up to the DSLR crowd because of budget. When I make that move, I don't want to buy the cheapest gear just because it's dslr. I want something I'll be able to grow with and stay with for years. That's going to put a big bite in the budget.

That being said, I really like my 717 for the most part (especially for the cost) and using it has taught me a lot about photography. When I do move "up", I fully plan to keep the 717 as a backup.

Even with the 717, I have a lot of people come up and ask me about the camera. I had security at a concert tell me I couldn't use it because "no videos allowed", and I had to explain that it was a still camera. (he really didn't need to know about the video capability, and I honestly NEVER use it.)

I'm one of those people who take shots at weddings when there is also a hired photographer. BUT...I always ask the photographers if it bothers them, I always stay out of the way, and I always take any of my shots after they have completed theirs. I even had one photographer who, after taking his shot, actually moved his equipment and told me to move to that position for a better shot! (I certainly got HIS card!)

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

06/07/2005 01:04:47 PM · #71

Oh yea and P.S. when I went to buy my Rebel two years ago I didn't even know what a memory card was..and didn't know how Canon cameras recorded images (I'd only used an olympus up to that point). And after owning my Rebel for a few months, someone told me about the light meter .. I'd never even heard of one before.

Talk about clueless. This thread isn't about getting down on p-n-s owners or newbies. There's nothing wrong with being clueless, just don't be upset when you realize it.

:-)

I also tell clients that tag-alongs aren't allowed during picture taking unless they have a respectful friend/family member who is into photography and they know would be a fly on the wall. That's cool by me. It's the ones who try to give me ideas, ask me questions, etc that I want to swat.

Message edited by author 2005-06-07 13:08:22.

colda

Nikon D800

06/07/2005 01:14:48 PM · #72

I was the same - could not understand the need for a dSLR and when people said 'just use one and you will see' I dismissed the concept, until I did what was suggested and now I tend to say the same thing :)

Ironically the last 'botherer' that I encountered was a dRebel owner who proceeded to lecture me on the uselessness of my external flash and additional lenses then went on to explain his camera's advanced ability to use a full auto mode thus rendering any manual controls useless. I did try to discuss things with him and suggest some benefits of having control of your camera/external flash functionality/diversity of lenses but alas my knowledge was no match for his auto mode/built-in flash/kit lens.

vxpra

Pentax K100D

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

06/07/2005 03:14:51 PM · #73

My previous post was in no way meant to bash p-n-s cameras (either film of digital). Several years ago, while I was selling cameras to make ends meet, we had a customer get an enlargement of an incredible photo of Engineer Mountain (anyone that has travelled from Durango to Silverton knows the peak I mean), it was taken at the perfect height, perfect time of days and was just spectacular with a huge field of wildflowers laying out before the mountian- there were many jealous photographers in the room. When the customer picked it up one of us asked what he shot it with. "My 4 year old shot it with one of those throw away cameras."