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05/12/2005 12:28:38 PM · #1 |
I know this might be a bit of a stupid question, but is it only photoshop you all use to help with your pics? My other half said it might be easier for me to use Paint shop pro as I already know how to use it(slightly!) Any advice would be greatly appreciated! |
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05/12/2005 12:31:27 PM · #2 |
PS may be dominant on the site (or appear so) however a lot of people use other programs PaintShop Pro being one, MS Digital Image Pro being another. Some use GIMP which is free.
I'm sure if you run into trouble with PaintShop Pro someone will be able to help you here. A lot of the tasks can be very similar so even the Photoshop suggestions may be translatable.
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05/12/2005 12:33:55 PM · #3 |
I have used PSP since almost its beginning. I learn more everyday from it and love it's simplicity. PhotoShop does a lot more but wow look at the cost. I can't wait to finally try the newest version (9?). I love the autotask stuff and just seems to work easier for me. I hope the newest has better raw handeling though, I usually open my raws with PhotoShop CS then save and reopen in PSP.
Never used Gimp or MS Digital Image.
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05/12/2005 12:34:59 PM · #4 |
that sounds good to me. My other half said the learning curve from PSP to PS was straight up and I'd probably get fed up with it. I think just he doesn't want me to become as good as he is at it though lol (",) |
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05/12/2005 12:43:55 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by muggle_girl: that sounds good to me. My other half said the learning curve from PSP to PS was straight up and I'd probably get fed up with it. I think just he doesn't want me to become as good as he is at it though lol (",) |
That's why Photoshop Elements was invented to get someone new to learn and move up to the reg Photoshop. Elements is currently up to Version 3.
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05/12/2005 12:44:54 PM · #6 |
You may want to upgrade your Bio on your profile mentioning that you use PSP so when asking a question about it folks would know. |
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05/12/2005 12:51:29 PM · #7 |
I upgraded from PSP to PScs in November and have never looked back. Yes the price was hard to swallow, but working with RAW photos and learning about the ability to record actions has revolutionized the way I post-process.
Don't be dismayed however. I still believe that if you are shooting JPG that PSP has everything you need to succeed with post-processing, it's just not quite as powerful on the 'streamlining' front.
Where I would make the biggest distinction between the two: If you have an older PC with only 512mb don't even think of PScs. If however your PC is a 3ghz with at leat 1 if not 2 gb of ram and you work with 10-20 pics a day, they you are only shooting yourself in the foot by not spending the money.
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05/12/2005 12:52:56 PM · #8 |
I've been using PSP 9 for a few months now and found the following book to be helpful:
Paint Shop Pro 9: Photographers' Guide
Author: Diane Koers
ISBN #: 1-59200-661-2
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05/12/2005 12:53:59 PM · #9 |
I'm running PS CS2 on a 1.8 GHz with 256Mb of RAM. Yes it's slow however I've never had it hang. It is soon time for an upgrade though.
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05/12/2005 12:56:16 PM · #10 |
I'm not familiar with PS "record actions", but PSP 9 has the ability to save "scripts" that you can rerun as needed. Once you've post-processed an image (say from a set of shots with similar light conditions, etc..) you can save the actions (histogram, contrast, levels, etc...) to rerun on the remaining images in your collection.
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05/12/2005 12:57:35 PM · #11 |
I used psp for a long time.
Why not just use photoshop elements? PSP is great but if you ever decide to move up you have to learn new ways of doing stuff. Plus there are tons of books for Elements and photoshop.
Tim |
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05/12/2005 01:00:50 PM · #12 |
I love psp. Been using it forever and haven't found any limitations to it including the ability to record actions. |
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05/12/2005 01:28:11 PM · #13 |
I've been using PSP since version 5 and I'm currently working with PSP9. I think it's very unstable once you get to edit files larger than 100MB (large picture with multiple layers, various opacities, vector elements and text). I'm trying CS2 after my final school exams to see if it fits my needs better.
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05/12/2005 02:08:51 PM · #14 |
I have been using PSP for years, but recently switched to photoshop elements.
To me, its handling of layers, its filters, and especially it's "save for web" options are worth the learning curve (which, btw, wasn't that bad).
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05/12/2005 02:12:29 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by glad2badad: I'm not familiar with PS "record actions", but PSP 9 has the ability to save "scripts" that you can rerun as needed. Once you've post-processed an image (say from a set of shots with similar light conditions, etc..) you can save the actions (histogram, contrast, levels, etc...) to rerun on the remaining images in your collection. |
and if I remember correctly you can use the saved scripts to use when batch processing images instead of one by one. Very handy and time saving.
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05/12/2005 02:22:09 PM · #16 |
thanks for all the advice. I shall give it a go and let you know. I am in the process of trying to take a picture for the open challenge.... there are so many things I want to try! |
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05/12/2005 03:00:48 PM · #17 |
PSP 9 is very easy to use for saving for web (or challenges). You have the option to run the optimizer when saving that gives you multiple choices of compression types, etc... If you just use the standard compression type (default), and change the compression ratio number, you can see the file size update along with the appearance (via preview window that is automatic).
...and sabphoto, you're correct, the scripts can be run as a batch process.
At $129 standard retail (I got mine for $50 after a rebate special I happened to catch) - it's not a bad deal. But in the end, to each their own. ;^)
Originally posted by northrop3: I have been using PSP for years, but recently switched to photoshop elements.
To me, its handling of layers, its filters, and especially it's "save for web" options are worth the learning curve (which, btw, wasn't that bad). |
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05/12/2005 03:11:18 PM · #18 |
Yeah I love PSP.....very intuitive. Not as fulyl powerfull as PS but can do most thing anyone would want to do.
Here is a interface I made back in 1999. All from scratch. Nothing great but kept me busy.
And some tentacles and blood.
BTW if anyone wants an interface I can try and make one....for free of course. I know nothing about coding or anything liek that.
Message edited by author 2005-05-12 15:14:23. |
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05/12/2005 03:22:01 PM · #19 |
I've been using PSP since version 6 and am currently using 8. I am thinking of upgrading to 9 if someone can tell me what the advantages might be to doing so.
I just got an email for a $59 special on PSP9 now. Because I'm well-adjusted to PSP, should I go for it? I like to get creative (watercolors, oils, etc.) |
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05/12/2005 03:26:46 PM · #20 |
I have both Paint shop pro and Adobe Photoshop. I have tried to get to grips with Photoshop but I am pretty usless with it. Paint shop pro on the other hand seems to suit me much better.
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05/12/2005 03:28:17 PM · #21 |
With something like RSE you can combine PSP into a RAW workflow with very little hassle: it's how I've been working recently, and I'm toroughly happy with that process ... for the moment, of course.
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05/12/2005 04:04:23 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by woohoopepper:
I just got an email for a $59 special on PSP9 now. Because I'm well-adjusted to PSP, should I go for it? I like to get creative (watercolors, oils, etc.) |
Then you should go and get it. PSP9 is (as far as I know) the only program that realistically simulates oil colours. You even have a palette where you can mix the colours by hand, and later on paint with a "dirty" brush, that means multiple distinct colours at once, with one stroke. Very cool if you want to paint on your computer.
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05/12/2005 05:47:05 PM · #23 |
Hey thanks gloda and e for valuable info.
e - I've been using RSE, saving as tiff files and then reopening in PSP for sizing and re-adjustments if needed. Is that the way you do it? |
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05/12/2005 08:28:14 PM · #24 |
Theres always GIMP
Lots of improvments from previous versions
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05/15/2005 02:19:20 PM · #25 |
For anyone interested, I noticed in today's paper that BestBuy has Paint Shop Pro 9 available for $59.99 after various rebates. Retail is usually around $129.99.
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