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05/07/2005 03:05:46 AM · #1
What are these spots?

05/07/2005 03:08:06 AM · #2
Because they are in the same place in the frame, regardless of lenses used, says sensor dust/dirt to me.


Message edited by author 2005-05-07 03:08:39.
05/07/2005 04:34:21 AM · #3
What BradP said...

Check out the manual under 'cleaning the sensor' or sensor cleaning, can't remember which, and I don't have my manual with me to see which it's under. :-).

Just a blower (no brush) should move them.

BTW, change the camera in your profile...

Cheers, Me.
05/07/2005 04:37:15 AM · #4
Or you could leave your 7000 as your favorite camera...
05/07/2005 07:54:24 AM · #5
Dust Bunnies!!!!



Message edited by author 2005-05-07 08:13:39.
05/07/2005 08:02:28 AM · #6
from space!
05/07/2005 10:47:58 AM · #7
Originally posted by KiwiChris:


Just a blower (no brush) should move them.


The blower worked for me once. Only once. The next time, it refused to move certain bunnies. I ultimately got the Copperhill cleaning system. It's a little tough to get it, and a little scary, but works pretty well.

The 20D seems to be pretty prone to dust bunnies. :(
Still a damn fine camera. :)
05/07/2005 11:02:40 AM · #8
I agree it is kinda disturbing buying a brand new camera and having spots. I got the 20D a month ago and it also has several "dust bunnies". I almost sent it back. I figured that a $1500 camera should be a little cleaner and better tested before leaving their "clean room". Oh well the blower worked and I have had to do it several times so learn how to. Changing lens over seems to make it possible for dust to collect more often. Good luck
05/07/2005 11:13:22 AM · #9
I've had the same problem. I use the blower only for now and it has always worked. I usually make sure to turn off power and wait a while before changing the lense so that any "static charge" is released and won't suck in the dust as bad.
05/07/2005 11:51:10 AM · #10
Originally posted by mariomel:

... The 20D seems to be pretty prone to dust bunnies. :(Still a damn fine camera. :)

Interesting to note that remark comes from someone who owned another Canon DSLR before their 20D.

TY Mario.


05/07/2005 12:31:37 PM · #11
Where did you get your blower? On ste Catherine?

Long live the Copperhill method.

Originally posted by mariomel:

Originally posted by KiwiChris:

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Just a blower (no brush) should move them.


The blower worked for me once. Only once. The next time, it refused to move certain bunnies. I ultimately got the Copperhill cleaning system. It's a little tough to get it, and a little scary, but works pretty well.

The 20D seems to be pretty prone to dust bunnies. :(
Still a damn fine camera. :)

05/07/2005 12:59:47 PM · #12
Originally posted by mariomel:

Originally posted by KiwiChris:


Just a blower (no brush) should move them.


The blower worked for me once. Only once....

The 20D seems to be pretty prone to dust bunnies. :(
Still a damn fine camera. :)


[knocking on wood] The rocket blaster has always worked for me [/knocking on wood]

All dSLRs (if you use them) are prone to dust bunnies...my buddy has to clean the sensor on his Minota 7D every other day. I'm at once a week now...

If you shoot the sky (or low light) you will sooner than later see the dust bunnies... I think shooting up at airshows/birds even makes it sooner as anything inside the cam seems to fall down on the sensor/mirror.

Andy

ED: BTW Ritz has a Rocket Blaster clone for about $6.95

Message edited by author 2005-05-07 13:01:05.
05/07/2005 01:05:46 PM · #13
Originally posted by coolhar:

Originally posted by mariomel:

... The 20D seems to be pretty prone to dust bunnies. :(Still a damn fine camera. :)

Interesting to note that remark comes from someone who owned another Canon DSLR before their 20D.

TY Mario.


I don't think I had to clean my DRebel before about 7-8 months. My 20D needed to be done after about 1-2 months. I've cleaned at about 3 times since. My Rebel hasn't been cleaned since the first time. Granted, I don't use it much since I got the 20D.
05/07/2005 01:20:47 PM · #14
There is an exception to your statement...the Olympus system cameras
(E-1 and E-300) have the "supersonic wave filter" that cleans dust off the sensor everytime it starts up. Users are very happy with that feature and say it works very well.

Not trying to incite anything, just want to correct your statement regarding "all dSLRs." :)

Originally posted by awpollard:

All dSLRs (if you use them) are prone to dust bunnies...
Andy
05/07/2005 01:22:04 PM · #15
Originally posted by Olyuzi:

There is an exception to your statement...the Olympus system cameras
(E-1 and E-300) have the "supersonic wave filter" that cleans dust off the sensor everytime it starts up. Users are very happy with that feature and say it works very well.

Not trying to incite anything, just want to correct your statement regarding "all dSLRs." :)

Originally posted by awpollard:

All dSLRs (if you use them) are prone to dust bunnies...
Andy


My bad and understood... :)
05/07/2005 01:22:39 PM · #16
I have just had my 300d serviced and the sensor cleaned for the first time since I bought it - thats November 2003 17th months - and there was hardly any dust spots. I do look after my kit but when I see people have to clean their sensors every other day I begin to wonder how careful they are with their gear. The only reason I sent mine away is because I am shooting a wedding next Saturday so I needed it to be spot on!


05/07/2005 01:47:44 PM · #17
Originally posted by MikeOwens:

I am shooting a wedding next Saturday so I needed it to be spot on!

Don't you mean "spot OFF" ?? *g*
05/07/2005 04:30:20 PM · #18
Originally posted by Truegsht:

I've had the same problem. I use the blower only for now and it has always worked. I usually make sure to turn off power and wait a while before changing the lense so that any "static charge" is released and won't suck in the dust as bad.


I've seen this comment a few times on various sites, and in one print article, but I'm not sure it makes any difference...

I change lenses often during an event, and without turning off the camera, often sticking the lenses in my pockets, or in the bag sans-end caps. This is street events & outdoor sports..

I've not had any images ruined through dust bunnies, and only had a couple of larger ones show up, which were removed with a blower.

I do have sensor swabs and eclipse standing by if I ever get a large bunny stuck, but that's yet to happen. I do have a couple of smaller ones which show up at F/16 or smaller, but as I shoot wide open more often than not it dosn't worry me.

I think that the reality of this is more luck that good management. I've seen posts on this forum, and on other sites, from people who only change there lenses in clean rooms, after cleaning the camera externally, who still get massive dust problems, and yet I know three pros who use dSLR's in the same slightly slap-happy way I do and have not had a problem that couldn't be solved with a blower.

Certainly there are some things to avoid.. The beach is one of them unless you shot with a weather proof body/lenses and never change lenses. Avoid concerts that use artificial smoke. Don't shoot in a sauna. And if you're at the burning man festival and a dust storm comes up, tape a plastic bag around your camera before venturing out! Also avoid places with lots of cigarette smoke, the arch enemy of precision optics. Of course, if you have a Canon 1DII and sealed lenses, go for it.

My other observation is that many people wail and gnash over small spots that show up at F/22 when in reality they would never show up in a typical situation.

As always, just my 2c worth...
05/07/2005 04:34:32 PM · #19
Originally posted by Beetle:

Originally posted by MikeOwens:

I am shooting a wedding next Saturday so I needed it to be spot on!

Don't you mean "spot OFF" ?? *g*


LOL!


05/07/2005 04:37:09 PM · #20
One other observation...

A couple of people I know have picked up larger dust bunnies while chimping at the sensor itself...

They get their new dSLR, and the pop it into 'sensor cleaning mode', or use a bulb exposure, to see what the sensor looks like, while pointing at it and going, Oooooo, Ahhhh.. :-).

Cheers, Me.
05/07/2005 04:49:43 PM · #21
Thanks all, used a turkey baster, and all seems well. Was just bugged that a brand new Camera would have this, but after thinking a bit about it and your messages, it made sense.

05/07/2005 06:19:54 PM · #22
Originally posted by mpemberton:

Thanks all, used a turkey baster, and all seems well. Was just bugged that a brand new Camera would have this, but after thinking a bit about it and your messages, it made sense.


I'd be careful if I were you. If your turkey baster has any oily residue on it, you'll be cursing you didn't spend the $10 on a camera blower. Just a thought.

Anywho, now that you're dust bunnies are gone, happy shooting!
05/07/2005 06:57:00 PM · #23
Originally posted by mpemberton:

Thanks all, used a turkey baster, and all seems well. Was just bugged that a brand new Camera would have this, but after thinking a bit about it and your messages, it made sense.


ROFL! Did you use a sugar, or honey glaze on the sensor then?

I assume it was a new/clean baster?
05/07/2005 08:00:18 PM · #24
//www.pbase.com/copperhill/ccd_cleaning

The best cleaning method I have tried. Worked fine on my D70.
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