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07/11/2002 10:37:37 AM · #1
I pulled my fear submission out at the last minute because it didn't meet my 'would you display it?' criteria at all. Now that I'm seeing all of the photos for fear, I'm realizing that I'd probably only choose to display 3-4 of the submitted photos and those don't really speak fear to me anyway. It's driving me nuts not to see how my un-submission would come out in the challenge. Anyone care to give a coward a little feedback? Here's the photo.

I'd be glad to reciprocate if anyone else out there is in the same boat.

Thanks.
07/11/2002 11:04:48 AM · #2
i think it''s a nice pic. definitely cool lighting, and the sharpness and focus is good. the composition is also interesting.

not to make you feel bad, but i think if you had entered this would have done really well, esp by comparison to the many of the other entries .. : )

* This message has been edited by the author on 7/11/2002 11:36:36 AM.
07/11/2002 11:15:06 AM · #3
Lisa,

I like it as well. I think the lighting definitely works well and the open window with the breeze blowing the blind makes it work even better. I think your 'would i display it' criteria may be a little limiting in some cases. Does this requirement mean that you wouldn't use the photo unless you could frame it and display it in your home or something?
07/11/2002 11:23:31 AM · #4
I think you took the "fear" challenge too far :-) You let it keep you from submitting.

Good photo. Certainly worth at least submitting to an amatuer digital photo critique site.

If you went to college and took a course and already knew all the answers why go? Same here. Just take your swing..submit..and see what happens :-)
07/11/2002 11:30:54 AM · #5
I agree with all that has been said. I think the stark lighting contrast really sets a mood. This picture made me think of several things. First, kidnapping. But then I also thought of divorced parents who have to see an empty bed when the child is visiting the other parent. And third, death of a child. All particularly fearsome events.

One question -- what is that on the floor? Footprints, you didn't sweep that day, what? :-) Another addition that may have helped would be to have a clock displaying a time a kid would normally be in the bed.

07/11/2002 11:46:33 AM · #6
Very nice photo. It really captures a parent's fear. I like the muddy footprints, the bright light under the blowing shade. The addition of a clock would have been nice, but all in all, quite quite nice.

It's just a week-long peer review/education. Submit next time.

And thanks for making the competition a little LESS stiff this time. ;)
07/11/2002 11:49:15 AM · #7
Thanks for the feedback...I think I'm kicking myself more now though. UGH! At least I know now that it doesn't totally s*ck. :b

I definitely need to re-think my 'for display' criteria...I don't think it works for some subjects because I obviously just won't care for them. I'm more lenient on other people's photos in that respect...I take it much more seriously with my own (my own worst critic...except for maybe my mother...lol).

That's chocolate pudding footprints on the floor...meant to be muddy footprints from the kidnapper stomping in the flowerbeds. I actually like the photo w/o the footprints better but didn't think it told enough of a story to submit here.

Good idea on the clock...I had thought of that after the chocolate pudding mess (took forever to get the junk out of the deep treads of my husbands boots) was cleaned up and didn't have the energy to re-setup.

Thanks so much for the feedback. Hopefully, I've learned my lesson now and won't have to bug you again.
07/11/2002 11:50:15 AM · #8
I like the photo too. I can understand why you were reluctant to submit though. This is a photo that needs the title to set the mood and make you think the worst. These kinds of photos don't seem to do very well in the competition. I would have given it a higher vote myself since I like the emotional impact the photo conveys.
07/11/2002 11:53:55 AM · #9
Originally posted by Lisa:
It's driving me nuts not to see how my un-submission would come out in the challenge. Anyone care to give a coward a little feedback?

Lisa -- I think it's a great photo and would have scored very well this week. I like the lighting and composition and it certainly captures the "fear" of the situation. Good Job! I'd give you an 8!
07/11/2002 12:14:26 PM · #10
Don't worry Lisa, you're not on your own. I also had a photo which I first submitted, then unsubmitted due to the content. I sat for about half an hour pondering wether or not to submit it , then bottled out.
Basically, it was a scene of domestic violence with the man stood over a cowering women with bruises on her (Make up). I took it in B&W and although I was pleased with the Photo itself, I was uncomfortable with the image. I know that some peoples kids look at these pictures and therefore felt a responsibility not to put it in the public Domain. I also deleted the images.
At the end of the day Lisa you have to do what you feel is right. I applaude you for your honesty. Keep ya chin up. Theres always next time.
:-)
07/11/2002 12:29:27 PM · #11
Lisa,

I am glad you have a submission standard, but it may be a little too hard. One I use when judging that I have talked about it, "how would it look on a wall?" What I mean is, would it loose impact, not would I want to post it. I try to keep a similar standard for post that you have, but maybe a better one would be, would you be proud to have friends/family see the pic in the context of the challenge?

I really like how you use black and white in that shot. I think the one without the footprints would have been better for me, because it really leaves things open. The child could have ran away, been kid-napped, died, or away. This would definitely be in the top half, and probably top 1/3 for me.
07/11/2002 12:34:00 PM · #12
Originally posted by Dogman:
Basically, it was a scene of domestic violence with the man stood over a cowering women with bruises on her (Make up). I took it in B&W and although I was pleased with the Photo itself, I was uncomfortable with the image. I know that some peoples kids look at these pictures and therefore felt a responsibility not to put it in the public Domain. I also deleted the images.
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Wow. I bet the shot was great. Sounds like it would probably be the best representation of fear in this challenge. I can definitely understand why you wouldn't submit it. I give you a 10 for your idea...but I'm kinda glad I didn't have to look at it.

Why are we taking pictures of fear anyway? Who wants to look at that (especially after being overwhelmed with images of fear and grief from 9/11 and ensuing events)? Maybe we can take a break from emotions for a while and then do something like the 'happy-sappy challenge.' Imagine all of the kiddie photos we'd see then (mine would be one). ;P

07/11/2002 01:38:26 PM · #13
Originally posted by Lisa:
I pulled my fear submission out at the last minute because it didn't meet my 'would you display it?' criteria at all. Now that I'm seeing all of the photos for fear, I'm realizing that I'd probably only choose to display 3-4 of the submitted photos and those don't really speak fear to me anyway.
Thanks.


Originally posted by Dogman:
Basically, it was a scene of domestic violence with the man stood over a cowering women with bruises on her (Make up). I took it in B&W and although I was pleased with the Photo itself, I was uncomfortable with the image. I know that some peoples kids look at these pictures and therefore felt a responsibility not to put it in the public Domain. I also deleted the images.

My view:
1. These pictures probably would have been the strongest submissions to this challenge.
2. Strong photos dont' seem to do well on this site. People tend to shy away from real emotion.
3. You both should have submitted and endured the negative comments. In a challenge like this, if you don't worry about the effect of your picture, it isn't good enough. BTW, mine was a cop-out.
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