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04/20/2005 06:21:05 PM · #26

Despite what Gil P said, the B400's offer plenty of power. I totally disagree, the Digibee package is great, as are the B400's.

You will not outgrow these.

Message edited by author 2005-04-20 18:26:56.

04/20/2005 06:23:31 PM · #27

But they only trigger as flashes right? they do not make strobe lighting.

04/20/2005 06:25:26 PM · #28

Originally posted by Discraft:

But they only trigger as flashes right? they do not make strobe lighting.

Strobe lightning? They are strobes, and will flash. They can be slaves, or you can plug them in. However, using the on camera flash to trigger them will not only waste batteries, but it can also affect the lighting. They come with a cord to plug in, why mess with the on camera flash?

04/20/2005 06:27:28 PM · #29

But they only serve as flashes and not as conitnues light right.

04/20/2005 06:29:03 PM · #30

They have a 100 watt modeling light inside.

04/20/2005 06:30:19 PM · #31

Originally posted by Plexxoid:

They have a 100 watt modeling light inside.

And what does that mean? sorry for the ignorance but i am not very known on profissional lighting.

04/20/2005 06:34:16 PM · #32

No problem. This lights up your studio, and allows you to see how the light will be distributed. You will not take the picture by this light (unless you have several lights and a very fast lens, and you REALLY want to).

04/20/2005 06:39:19 PM · #33

Originally posted by Plexxoid:

So it works as a continues light source and if i go with higher watts would that easy up things?
Do you know if they have the cords to use it in Europe. or the voltage?Â»

04/20/2005 06:41:55 PM · #34

What's the point in buying a strobe if you're only using the modelling light? You wouldn't want to take a picture using the modelling lights.

Sounds to me like you don't want to use the strobes, is this the case, and if so, why?

As for wattages and cords, I don't know. Alienbees support up to 150 watt bulbs.

Message edited by author 2005-04-20 18:43:00.

04/20/2005 06:47:50 PM · #35

Ok, well, it's fine that someone disagrees... but 160w/s is not a serious power. 160w/s means that diffused the light would need to be at less than 3' from the model to be able to get 1/125 @ f.7 iso100... no arguing mathematics.

Discraft, you mention "strob" These are flashes, just like the one on your camera, they do not "strob" like a stroboscopic light. the modeling light is there to help you compose your lighting, to give you an idead of how the shadows will fall.

Message edited by author 2005-04-20 18:48:20.

04/20/2005 06:50:01 PM · #36

ok i want to take photos in a studio... i am more fond of modeling light. but have been trying to use more a flash to get used to it and still i like more the modeling light because i have more control in the continous light... i can see the shadows and what the light actually does at the moment... but if the alien bees would do the two things strobe and modeling light that would be great.

04/20/2005 06:51:54 PM · #37

400 effective watt seconds. If I were to put my B800's on 1/2 power, I would have to set my camera on F16 at very least (ISO 100, Tv 125).

I think you're confused.

04/20/2005 06:53:04 PM · #38

Originally posted by Discraft:

Trust me, using the Alienbees is a breeze. Is it the metering that concerns you?

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8

04/20/2005 06:54:30 PM · #39

Originally posted by Discraft:

OK, now I think you're really confused, the Flash (bee or whatever) comes with a modeling light inside, it's not bright enough to use as a main light, just bright enough for your camera to focus and for you to see the effect with your eyes before taking the shot.

what you seem to suggest is that you'd like to have "continuous" lights, not lights that flash. those are called "hotlights" ( www.ianiro.com ) these are mostly designed for video, and to get the same output as a 250w/s flash you need more than 1000watts...so the produce a lot of heat and consume a lot of power.

Flashes are the way to go for the studio (and neon in mass).

pcody

Canon PowerShot G6

04/20/2005 06:55:18 PM · #40

The nude was shot with a spot light. It has very hard edges and from the light distrbution it looks to be very powerful. What you might try to simulate that type of lighting, and if you don't want to spend lots of money, is find an old slide projector and use it as your light source. In the nude picture the light is coming from almost directly above the model. Compare the edges of the shadows between the picture posted of the child and the nude. One is soft the other isn't.

04/20/2005 06:57:30 PM · #41

Originally posted by Plexxoid:

400 effective watt seconds. If I were to put my B800's on 1/2 power, I would have to set my camera on F16 at very least (ISO 100, Tv 125).

I think you're confused.

sorry there but a AB800 is 250w/s and a AB400 is 160w/s effective watts and w/s are two different things, AB and whitelight are known for having tricky names that tend to make them look more powerful than their actual output. the w/s is what matters not the what of the supply. this is why a 400w/s Broncolor sells for 2000$ and a AB for 250$. Don't get me wrong, they're good units, but the marketing is a bit "oversold".

04/20/2005 06:58:21 PM · #42

Ok now i understand why the bees have modeling light... i think it might be a little complicated to the metering... i am used to use hallogen lights and light bulbs to make my studio shots. so i think like that is really simple but at the same time i see a great diference in other peoples shot made with strobes or studio light.