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03/02/2005 08:31:18 AM · #1
I was experimenting with my new camera looking for some Light on White shots. (Decided against submission, probably a wise choice.) This was taken in a large room with natural lighting from large windows on the lower story. I managed to expose to avoid shadows, but I was wondering if there was something else - something specific that I could have done while on-site to avoid the change in tone on the back wall. The top of the frame is noticeably darker than the bottom of the frame.

If anyone can help, I'd sure appreciate it!

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03/02/2005 08:35:42 AM · #2
It's very pretty. I find it to be too soft and still too dark. I played with it a bit and sharpened it, adjusted curves, and saturation it was beautiful! Play with it a bit and I'm sure you'll find something you like.
03/02/2005 08:37:37 AM · #3
My guess is you had the camera tilted upwards. This would make the top of the image further away from the camera than the bottom which could explain the difference in tone.

A higher vantage point to make it more straight on would probably improve the situation.
03/02/2005 08:41:32 AM · #4
in photoshop, pull up the hue/saturation dialogue box and desaturate only the yellow in the image to about -60 ... it helps a lot, i just tested it.
03/02/2005 11:15:35 AM · #5
Originally posted by cpanaioti:

My guess is you had the camera tilted upwards. This would make the top of the image further away from the camera than the bottom which could explain the difference in tone.

A higher vantage point to make it more straight on would probably improve the situation.


The image is darker at the top because this is closer to the ceiling, and as a rule walls are darker near the ceiling than near the floor, because the windows are down lower. This is especially true in high-ceilinged rooms, of which this seems to be one.

Issues of color saturation, removing yellow, etc aside, this can be evened out by applying a gradient mask to the layer. Go to layers/duplicate layer from background and make a copy of the whole thing. In the layers palette right click and choose blending options. Select gradient as the option, then double click on that to call up the dialogue for gradient. Choose a gradient that runs from grey to transparent and orinet it so it's darker at the bottom than at the top, and adjust so the gradient intensifies at the correct spot. Finally, asjust the opacity of this layer so the effect looks natural.

Use that layer as your new base layer for the other adjustments, such as hue/saturation, curves, levels, and you can make this image pop very nicely.

Robt.
03/02/2005 11:40:39 AM · #6
If you mean a grayscale image within Basic Editing, yes. You can desaturate and lighten the yellow and red channels 100%, then apply some curves and levels to remove most of the gradation. With Advanced Editing (or outside of challenge restrictions) you can do much more.

03/02/2005 05:29:36 PM · #7
How's this?

Using a layer masking I created a gradient to protect the upper portion of the image. I then set the brightness/contrast to -20 +20, respectively. After that I ran unsharp mask on the entire image with the following settings 20, 80, 0 to increase the contrast between colors some more. Below is the end result.



This was just a quick attempt. With more careful tuning it would be even better.

Message edited by author 2005-03-02 17:31:00.
03/02/2005 05:46:35 PM · #8
Nice job, fly!

Robt.
03/02/2005 06:44:02 PM · #9
Originally posted by bear_music:

Nice job, fly!

Robt.


Danke! ;-)
03/02/2005 07:04:03 PM · #10
I love doing this type of stuff :-)

Here is my dramatized black and white version, just did some dodge, burn and hue/sat


03/02/2005 09:32:55 PM · #11
Wow! You guys did some great things with my little image. Thanks very much for the advice.

Thanks especially to cpanaioti and bear_music for their helpful advice regarding lens position - I'll try it again another time with a higher vantage point. Unfortunately, the balcony was closed the day I went so I couldn't take advantage of a different shooting position but it's nice to know that could have made the difference I was looking for. Also many thanks to scalvert for the tips on how to do the basic editing, and a big thanks to everyone who took the time to give helpful hints for the advanced editing. You have all made my day!
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