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02/28/2005 06:32:49 PM · #1
Has anyone here ever printed on the epson watercolor paper? If so, do you have any tips to share? I'm getting ready to try my first print on it tonight...
02/28/2005 07:02:10 PM · #2
Can't help you there John, sorry.

But I will be very interested indeed in:

a) Seeing the photo you are planning on printing

b) Knowing how you get on with it :)
02/28/2005 07:53:34 PM · #3
I printed a 12x18 of THIS photo just a few minutes ago. I don't see much difference between this paper and the standard archival matte paper except for a minor texture in the sufrace. It looks pretty good though.
02/28/2005 10:05:28 PM · #4
I can't determine which is the correct side of the paper to print. I have tried both sides. The instructions say the 'brightest' side, but both sides appear to have the same brightness to me. One side has more of a texture than the other. The smoother side printed nicely with rich color and deep blacks. The more textured side did not maintain the richness of the blacks, but the color looks ok. The side with more texture seems to be less contrasty as well.
02/28/2005 10:10:02 PM · #5
I think it is the side with the texture. You have to add contrast and probably print a little darker as compared to a print done on glossy or lustre. Hold the paper up near a flouresent light to see the difference between the front and the back. One side will be brighter.
02/28/2005 10:17:37 PM · #6
Originally posted by nsbca7:

I think it is the side with the texture. You have to add contrast and probably print a little darker as compared to a print done on glossy or lustre. Hold the paper up near a flouresent light to see the difference between the front and the back. One side will be brighter.


Thanks for the info... I personally like the print result from the smoother side :) I don't know if that side will have any archival longevity though.
02/28/2005 10:27:09 PM · #7
if you like the smooth side use epson matte heavyweight and download a profile online, or if you don't have one I can email you mine. I have been very happy with the results from the matte. I have used a number of different watercolor papers and have not had much luck.
02/28/2005 10:27:13 PM · #8
Under closer observation using a flourescent lamp, the smoother side of the paper is the 'brightest' side. I'm still looking for someone who has used this paper...
02/28/2005 10:40:21 PM · #9
I have, but it's been a long time. I never liked the results.
02/28/2005 11:29:57 PM · #10
I tried it when I first got my printer and found it to be a sloppy paper. Don't like the texture. I use Archival Matte and (very occasionally) Premium Luster. Never use the glossy.

Robt.
02/28/2005 11:39:33 PM · #11
One thing you can try, and I liked the results a lot better the the Epson paper, is to use real hot press watercolor paper. Be careful about loose fiber.
02/28/2005 11:40:09 PM · #12
Originally posted by bear_music:

I tried it when I first got my printer and found it to be a sloppy paper. Don't like the texture. I use Archival Matte and (very occasionally) Premium Luster. Never use the glossy.

Robt.


I can't tell a lot of difference between this and the archival matte.
03/01/2005 12:02:19 AM · #13
From a sample the smoother side is the correct side.
03/01/2005 12:09:20 AM · #14
Originally posted by jmsetzler:


I can't tell a lot of difference between this and the archival matte.


I like the semi-gloss (I am pretty sure it is called) paper.

Does the archival matt give good results?

I have never tried it as I assumed it might not give the best quality for the actual photo, but had better results for long term storage.

Am I mistaken in that assumption?
03/01/2005 12:16:38 AM · #15
Originally posted by Natator:

Originally posted by jmsetzler:


I can't tell a lot of difference between this and the archival matte.


I like the semi-gloss (I am pretty sure it is called) paper.

Does the archival matt give good results?

I have never tried it as I assumed it might not give the best quality for the actual photo, but had better results for long term storage.

Am I mistaken in that assumption?


I love the results of matte paper for black and whites. I have only recenlty started exploring printing color on it. When you speak of 'quality', we may not be looking at the same aspects though. For looking at a photo.. held in your hand... up close... a gloss paper certainly does look nice. The properties, however, do change when you put them behind glass. The matte paper peforms exceptionally well in framing applications.
03/01/2005 02:32:23 AM · #16
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

Originally posted by Natator:

Originally posted by jmsetzler:


I can't tell a lot of difference between this and the archival matte.


I like the semi-gloss (I am pretty sure it is called) paper.

Does the archival matt give good results?

I have never tried it as I assumed it might not give the best quality for the actual photo, but had better results for long term storage.

Am I mistaken in that assumption?


I love the results of matte paper for black and whites. I have only recenlty started exploring printing color on it. When you speak of 'quality', we may not be looking at the same aspects though. For looking at a photo.. held in your hand... up close... a gloss paper certainly does look nice. The properties, however, do change when you put them behind glass. The matte paper peforms exceptionally well in framing applications.


If you want the greatest sense of critical sharpness and "depth" on close examination, the semi-gloss is a little brighter. The matte paper performs exceptionally well with color though, and under glass from a normal viewing distance looks better to my eye.

Robt.
03/01/2005 03:11:13 AM · #17
Ok, I'm sold. I'll get myself some matt and have a go with that as well next time I need paper :)
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