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02/25/2005 09:28:45 AM · #1 |
| Did anyone see the Apprentice last night, and if so, what did you think of the portraits done by that photographer? I didn't catch his name, but Mr. Trump said he gets $60-100K for each portrait. |
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02/25/2005 09:30:33 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by letenele:
Did anyone see the Apprentice last night, and if so, what did you think of the portraits done by that photographer? I didn't catch his name, but Mr. Trump said he gets $60-100K for each portrait. |
Hope he does better work than Trumps' barber. ;)
Message edited by author 2005-02-25 09:30:48.
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02/25/2005 09:34:23 AM · #3 |
lol!
But seriously, what about the photographs he took? I personally didn't think they were oh-so-worthy of such praise, they were simple B&W shots made to look more than they were by using nice frames. |
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02/25/2005 09:37:21 AM · #4 |
I agree! I didn't think they were that good either. What I did think was funny was he had an assitent removing the film.
Maybe his wife works for him, and he was getting a free plug! |
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02/25/2005 09:54:38 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by BMacD:
What I did think was funny was he had an assitent removing the film. |
If you work 2 or 3 cameras and have a deadline... i'm not sure you'd find it that funny. Film changing is very time consuming, that's why an assistant is very helpful. ;)
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02/25/2005 10:28:14 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by BMacD:
What I did think was funny was he had an assitent removing the film.
Maybe his wife works for him, and he was getting a free plug! |
That's a pretty typical scenario for pros working multiple cameras.
When I was assisting, part of my job was to keep the film backs loaded, know what kind of film was in what back, remember how many shots were left on a back switched mid-roll, hand the photographer the right back when he wanted to switch or ran out of film, unload the film, mark the rolls according to what was on them, making sure they got processed correctly at the lab and above all, not losing the film. Usually I also had to manage 2 or 3 cameras as well, making sure the photographer had the camera/lens/film combo they wanted.
During a shoot where time is of the essence (with a model, outside during the golden hours etc.), that alone is quite a task.
Message edited by author 2005-02-25 10:30:55.
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02/25/2005 10:32:47 AM · #7 |
| Thanks for the education... |
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02/25/2005 10:46:37 AM · #8 |
I began my photography career as an assistant, and at the height of it I had 3 of them myself, in a 2500 square foot studio. What spaz says is absolutely correct. There's nothing more important in the shoot than film. You gotta keep it loaded, you gotta load different kinds in mid-roll (switch backs or film holders), you gotta keep track of which rolls (or sheets) you're pushing and pulling, you gotta keep the film labeled according to its content (imagine a product shoot for a catalogue), and so forth ad infinitum. There's a huge amount of pressure.
I'm shooting with the 'blad, I need pan-x, ass't gives me a back, I find out next day he gave me the 'chtome instead of the pan-x, guess who's getting fired? (Hint, it's not me...)
Robt.
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02/25/2005 11:00:53 AM · #9 |
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02/25/2005 11:03:26 AM · #10 |
| I know his work,he's just bloody good. |
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02/25/2005 11:22:11 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by BMacD:
What I did think was funny was he had an assitent removing the film. |
That's what assistants do.
ooo now I wish I'd watched the show last night!
Message edited by author 2005-02-25 11:23:16. |
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02/25/2005 11:41:51 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by letenele:
I personally didn't think they were oh-so-worthy of such praise, they were simple B&W shots made to look more than they were by using nice frames. |
Most of his work is hung with thin gallery frames. His work is awesome and it looks like he has so much fun doing it.
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02/25/2005 12:00:01 PM · #13 |
Just checked out this guys site, and if i could take pics half as well as he can, then i would be happy.
Good photographer. |
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02/25/2005 12:30:16 PM · #14 |
| What I've been saying for ages and is just even more true after looking at this guy's site, is that most people don't pay nearly enough attention to styling. Even when his models are totally nude, they're still styled to the 9's..great hair, great make-up..even if it's a "raw" feel, styling is still very important. If you don't know anything about fashion/hair/make-up/clothing then find someone to help you who does :-) |
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02/25/2005 12:41:37 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by orussell:
Hope he does better work than Trumps' barber. ;) |
He should hope to be so good! Have you seen what Trump's barber has to work with? |
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02/25/2005 12:57:47 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by aronya1:
Originally posted by orussell:
Hope he does better work than Trumps' barber. ;) |
He should hope to be so good! Have you seen what Trump's barber has to work with? |
GIGO
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02/25/2005 02:51:19 PM · #17 |
I saw it last night and it was so much fun to see him work. I know what BMac meant. He was using only one camera that seemed to be a large format polaroid - I don't know if that even exists but the assistant had to reach around the photog to grab the film after each frame was shot.
Thanks for the link to the photogs site. He does such amazing work.
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02/25/2005 03:11:14 PM · #18 |
The actual shots he did on the show, of the apprentice people were nothing special, but it's obvious from his other work, that he is a true master of the art.
60-100k per shot...when I heard that last night I nearly passed out. If only..
I wonder how he got started.
I think it was a large format with a polaroid back. That's how they got to take home the shots immediately without a digital camera. |
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02/25/2005 03:13:09 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
What I've been saying for ages and is just even more true after looking at this guy's site, is that most people don't pay nearly enough attention to styling. Even when his models are totally nude, they're still styled to the 9's..great hair, great make-up..even if it's a "raw" feel, styling is still very important. If you don't know anything about fashion/hair/make-up/clothing then find someone to help you who does :-) |
easier said than done. If you don't have the money to pay a stylist, then you have to do it yourself. I would love to be able to do one shoot with real models and real stylists in a real studio with a real assistant. It would be interesting to see what kind of quality I could attain with all that. |
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02/25/2005 03:57:28 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by joanns:
I saw it last night and it was so much fun to see him work. I know what BMac meant. He was using only one camera that seemed to be a large format polaroid - I don't know if that even exists but the assistant had to reach around the photog to grab the film after each frame was shot.
Thanks for the link to the photogs site. He does such amazing work. |
Yes it exists. The large-format polaroid, that is. Has for what, 30 years? Soemnthing like that. Ansel worked closely with the Polaroid Corporation for a long time, a fine example of the arts and the corporate sphere supporting each other. I know for sure he shot 11x14 polaroids, and I seem to recall 16x20 as well. I myself have shot 8x10 polaroids with my Sinar P, back in the day. It's a wonderful image, very smooth tonalities and virtually grain-free.
In architectural photography, especially interiors, we used a lot of 4x5 polaroids, 55 P/N (positive/negative) was the film. It actually produced a negative which could be fixed in a small portable tank, although we rarely saved those. The main advantage of the 55 P/N film over straight print 4x5 polaroid emulsions was that its reciprocity failure closely approximated that of Ektachrome Tungsten film, so we were able to fine-tune our exposures as well as our setups.
Robt.
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02/25/2005 05:08:26 PM · #21 |
I watched the show and thought the shots were nice. Nice - not "wow" images. I'd really have to see them up close to comment more on them.
Hmm...most of us should be able to get a measly 10K at least...
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02/25/2005 06:02:05 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
Originally posted by joanns:
I saw it last night and it was so much fun to see him work. I know what BMac meant. He was using only one camera that seemed to be a large format polaroid - I don't know if that even exists but the assistant had to reach around the photog to grab the film after each frame was shot.
Thanks for the link to the photogs site. He does such amazing work. |
Yes it exists. The large-format polaroid, that is. Has for what, 30 years? Soemnthing like that. Ansel worked closely with the Polaroid Corporation for a long time, a fine example of the arts and the corporate sphere supporting each other. I know for sure he shot 11x14 polaroids, and I seem to recall 16x20 as well. I myself have shot 8x10 polaroids with my Sinar P, back in the day. It's a wonderful image, very smooth tonalities and virtually grain-free.
In architectural photography, especially interiors, we used a lot of 4x5 polaroids, 55 P/N (positive/negative) was the film. It actually produced a negative which could be fixed in a small portable tank, although we rarely saved those. The main advantage of the 55 P/N film over straight print 4x5 polaroid emulsions was that its reciprocity failure closely approximated that of Ektachrome Tungsten film, so we were able to fine-tune our exposures as well as our setups.
Robt. |
P/N 55 is very nice for portraits too. In that regard it also has the advantage that you can give the prints to the subject after the shoot and retain the neg for printing. The coating you had to apply too prevent oxidation was kind of messy and stinky tho.
There are several 20x24 Polaroid cameras in use, or you can buy one fom Polaroid. There are also a couple of studios that have the 20x24 Polaroid cameras to rent. ($900-$1200 per day for the studio and $60-$80 per exposure).
20x24 Polaroid Camera
The largest instant camera is the 40x80 Polaroid which is at a studio in Manhattan. You can rent that too, I dunno how much, but I bet it's a lot.
40x80 Polaroid Camera
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02/25/2005 06:06:56 PM · #23 |
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02/25/2005 06:13:09 PM · #24 |
A quick look at The Apprentice site led me to the name of the photographer.
Patrick Demarchelier
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02/25/2005 06:16:45 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by ButterflySis:
A quick look at The Apprentice site led me to the name of the photographer.
Patrick Demarchelier |
DannyM posted that link earlier. This guy has some amazing stuff.
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