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01/22/2005 10:31:05 AM · #26 |
Great Video about the Mac:
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01/22/2005 10:36:58 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by alionic:
...macs are no good for gaming. |
Macs are great for gaming (because of their graphics heritage). Game developers are no good for Macs. ;-) |
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01/22/2005 12:02:06 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
It is great to be unique. It just sucks to need service. |
There is ZERO problem in getting service for a BMW. there is ZERO problm in getting service for a Mac given the standardization of components.
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01/22/2005 12:15:41 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by xtabintun:
"switching to mac is like saying 'I got tired of walking with two legs, so I cut one off"
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These analogies are really lame. What is this like, waah, waah, waah, I have a PC so Mac sucks, waah, waah, waah, I canĂ¢€™t afford a Mac so Mac really sucks, waah, waah, waah.
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01/22/2005 12:18:37 PM · #30 |
| anyone care to answer my calibration question???? |
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01/22/2005 12:20:17 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by grigrigirl:
anyone care to answer my calibration question???? |
LOL, I use mine out of the box! The only thing I adjust is the colour settings in Photoshop.
And I get great prints on my Canon i9900 :o)
Message edited by author 2005-01-22 12:21:01.
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01/22/2005 12:21:06 PM · #32 |
I think a lot of people are being kind of snobby and catty about this. That's really sad.
I have used both for a very long time. My entire teacher certification education was done with Mac only. My first teaching position...the district was Mac only. I think both have good points and downfalls.
Personally I prefer PC. It's an individual thing. Macs and PCs are comparable in price, depending on the features you want. Get what you can afford and will be comfortable with. I could have bought either one the last two computer systems I've purchased, but I preferred the expansion capabilities and flexibility of the PC.
It has nothing to do with whining because people aren't able to afford it. That's just a rude an insensitive remark.
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01/22/2005 12:22:27 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by grigrigirl:
im going mac too. Waiting for the G5 to get here. Does anyone have a suggestion for the best monitor calibration technique on a mac??? |
Buy a SPIDER.
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01/22/2005 12:26:54 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by xtabintun:
"switching to mac is like saying 'I got tired of walking with two legs, so I cut one off"
: ) |
These analogies are really lame. What is this like, waah, waah, waah, I have a PC so Mac sucks, waah, waah, waah, I canĂ¢€™t afford a Mac so Mac really sucks, waah, waah, waah. |
I have had PC's for over 10 years, before that I had Macs. I used to enjoy the challenge PC's give of diagnosing and fixing it myself, resolving driver conflicts, IRQ addressing issues and the like.
I had never had to do that with Macs. My parents and my sister have always had Macs, they've never had these kinds of issues. My Dad has a G4 and my sister a G5, they've never experienced a "Blue Screen of Death" or any similar failures. I've had plenty on my PC. I just want to USE my computer, not FIX it so I can use it.
Message edited by author 2005-01-22 12:27:48.
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01/22/2005 12:29:35 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by laurielblack:
I think a lot of people are being kind of snobby and catty about this. That's really sad.
That's just a rude an insensitive remark. |
That is not being snobby. That simply replying to the posters with the "I have a Ford so Chevy sucks" mentality.
Buy what the hell you want. What do I care?
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01/22/2005 12:47:28 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by doctornick:
Originally posted by grigrigirl:
anyone care to answer my calibration question???? |
LOL, I use mine out of the box! The only thing I adjust is the colour settings in Photoshop.
And I get great prints on my Canon i9900 :o) |
The cheapest option is to use the Display Preferences (under System Preferences), it includes a calibration utility. Obviously it is not going to give you the same accuracy as a Spyder or some other hardware based calibrator, but it lets you recalibrate to the Windows standard gamma of 2.2 (which everyone seems to prefer for web work). At least now I can distinguish between all the gray squares in DPC's calibration strip, using the 2.2 gamma. |
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01/22/2005 12:52:17 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by magnus:
The cheapest option is to use the Display Preferences (under System Preferences), it includes a calibration utility. Obviously it is not going to give you the same accuracy as a Spyder or some other hardware based calibrator, but it lets you recalibrate to the Windows standard gamma of 2.2 (which everyone seems to prefer for web work). At least now I can distinguish between all the gray squares in DPC's calibration strip, using the 2.2 gamma. |
I'm using the standard 1.8 and can clearly distinguish the grays in the DPC calibration bar. (?)
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01/22/2005 12:54:32 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by frychikn:
I am considering buying a MAC computer (I am becoming disenchanted with windows). |
I'd let you have my Mac for free, but I'm currently using it on my boat. It doesn't work too well on the boat though--it isn't quite heavy enough and the boat keeps drifting.
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01/22/2005 12:56:44 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by micknewton:
Originally posted by frychikn:
I am considering buying a MAC computer (I am becoming disenchanted with windows). |
I'd let you have my Mac for free, but I'm currently using it on my boat. It doesn't work too well on the boat though--it isn't quite heavy enough and the boat keeps drifting. |
If you should ever consider suicide, I have some diamonds you could swallow.
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01/22/2005 01:03:11 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by frychikn:
Also, I have seen software for sale (and not cheaply!) which supposedly lets you run windows applications on a Mac computer. Does this software work?
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A new Mac with OS X Panther comes with a trial version of Microsoft Office, with Word, Excell, ect... They work very well and this version was created for and is native on the Mac, so it does not slow the computer.
Originally posted by livingfiction:
but forget virtual PC why have the beauty of OSX and mess it up with Windoze? If you must though, use 98 rather than XP, XP is wicked slow. |
Virtual PC is another thing altogether. This lets you run your Mac as if it had a Windows OS. Why anyone would want to is beyond me, but you do not need go to such extreme measures just to run most Windows software.
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01/22/2005 01:21:15 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by grigrigirl:
anyone care to answer my calibration question???? |
I use an iOne..before I used SuperCal and it was fairly close to when I went to iOne. I have switched to using 2.2 gamma, also.
The link above goes to Versiontracker....great place!!!
TinkerTool is also a great little program.
EDIT: Found this too...Monitor Calibration technique
Message edited by author 2005-01-22 13:23:50.
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01/22/2005 01:24:45 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by zeuszen:
I'm using the standard 1.8 and can clearly distinguish the grays in the DPC calibration bar. (?) |
Where exactly can I find this DPC calibration bar?
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01/22/2005 01:29:30 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by zeuszen:
I'm using the standard 1.8 and can clearly distinguish the grays in the DPC calibration bar. (?) |
Where exactly can I find this DPC calibration bar? |
go to any of the challenges and open one of the pics to vote...it will be on the very bottom. |
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01/22/2005 01:50:56 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Originally posted by magnus:
The cheapest option is to use the Display Preferences (under System Preferences), it includes a calibration utility. Obviously it is not going to give you the same accuracy as a Spyder or some other hardware based calibrator, but it lets you recalibrate to the Windows standard gamma of 2.2 (which everyone seems to prefer for web work). At least now I can distinguish between all the gray squares in DPC's calibration strip, using the 2.2 gamma. |
I'm using the standard 1.8 and can clearly distinguish the grays in the DPC calibration bar. (?) |
Which makes sense, the standard calibration on Mac LCDs and CRTs that haven't aged too much is actually very good. But the same image viewed on a well-calibrated 1.8 gamma monitor and a well-calibrated 2.2 gamma monitor will look slightly different (darker mid-tones on 2.2). Both can render the DPC calibration bar well, but still be different. So for consistency, the recommendation for Mac users doing web-work is to recalibrate to 2.2 (until we convince the rest of the world to use 1.8!)
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01/22/2005 01:55:14 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
Originally posted by grigrigirl:
anyone care to answer my calibration question???? |
I use an iOne..before I used SuperCal and it was fairly close to when I went to iOne. I have switched to using 2.2 gamma, also.
The link above goes to Versiontracker....great place!!!
TinkerTool is also a great little program.
EDIT: Found this too...Monitor Calibration technique |
If you aspiring Mac users follow that Monitor Calibration technique link, you should know that the Mac description is very old. The OS X built-in calibration tool is much better than the one shown. |
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01/22/2005 04:19:03 PM · #46 |
Regarding Mac hardware reliability, I've been a Mac system admin for about 18 years, and there are pretty much only three things that ever go wrong with Macs (usually): the batteries go dead after a few years and the clock starts acting wierd, hard drives are known to go bad (which happens to any computer, not really a Mac issue) and sometimes you'll get a bad batch of RAM: you'll know that within the same day as you install it.
Regarding calibration, I'd like to suggest that the state of the art in monitors has really improved in the last decade to the point where most mid- and high-end monitors provide quite good color right out of the box. Apple-brand monitors consistently perform well in every measurable and subjective test for apraising monitors: they're definitely high-end products, but they haven't sold CRT monitors for years.
Additionally, I'd point out that LCD monitors produce color differently than CRT monitors: a CRT monitor has a single source of light, i.e. the electron gun at the rear of the monitor, and it's possible to get a very uniform calibration. On an LCD, each pixel is represented by an individual LCD -- i.e. each pixel is produced by an independent source of light. Add to this the viewing angle issue, and you will need to decide if an LCD monitor will or won't suit your *perceived need* for color accuracy. Regarding software, simply using the system monitor calibration will get you really close.
I work in the advertising industry, and we still use calibrated CRT monitors for color-critical jobs. These Sony monitors come with their own calibration hardware. At home, I use a high-end LCD as a main monitor, and a really cheap P.O.S. office-grade LCD for a palate monitor: there is a MARKED difference in color accuracy between them. |
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01/22/2005 05:23:51 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by alanbataar:
Regarding Mac hardware reliability, I've been a Mac system admin for about 18 years, and there are pretty much only three things that ever go wrong with Macs (usually): the batteries go dead after a few years and the clock starts acting wierd, hard drives are known to go bad (which happens to any computer, not really a Mac issue) and sometimes you'll get a bad batch of RAM: you'll know that within the same day as you install it.
Apple-brand monitors consistently perform well in every measurable and subjective test for apraising monitors: they're definitely high-end products, but they haven't sold CRT monitors for years. |
They still sell them in the eMac configuration:
17 inch CRT, G4 chip, 256MB RAM, 80GB HD, DVD-R/CD-RW Superdrive, USB & FireWire ports, modem, keyboard and mouse for about $999 at CompUSA. |
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01/22/2005 05:28:42 PM · #48 |
I don't use a Mac, but I did read this really good article comparing PC's and Macs. You should read it before buying.
A Month with a Mac ... |
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