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 01/14/2005 09:41:09 PM · #26
Deapee, we usually agree on the controversial political stuff, but you're on your own here. A teacher seducing a 14 year old is just plain wrong... it's WAY OVER the line at that age. Since she had time to change outfits here, this was not a heat of the moment event, but premeditated.

Is 15 years fair? If you compare it to some convicted murderers who somtimes get out in less than 10 its not, but as a deterrent of future such behavior its necessary. And lets stop letting murderers out ever.
 01/14/2005 09:42:27 PM · #27
It should be noted that in many states in the U.S. the 'age of consent' is 13 years and at least one state has statutory consent at age 12. Seems criminal but there had to be a reason for those statutes. Perhaps they had a plethora of 'Lolitas'!

EDIT: Most states have changed their laws raising the age of consent to at least 14 years. Some countries have lower age statutes, as low as 12 years.

Message edited by author 2005-01-14 21:57:48.
 01/14/2005 09:51:07 PM · #28
So, who was this teacher anyway? I've been thinking about going back to school to further my education.


01/14/2005 09:51:51 PM · #29
I think she should get the max. 15yrs. They really need to set some examples in cases like this and it would'nt be happening so frequently. and thoe of you that said "if it was a guy it would be longer, your probably right" But it really should'nt be, they should both be a HEAVY penalty!!
 01/14/2005 10:18:35 PM · #30
To be student or teacher? ;)

Originally posted by micknewton:
So, who was this teacher anyway? I've been thinking about going back to school to further my education.
01/14/2005 10:27:24 PM · #31
Originally posted by photodude:
Deapee, we usually agree on the controversial political stuff, but you're on your own here.


You must have misunderstood me. All I said was that I thought it was wrong to take advantage of the young boy -- but I wished I had a teacher like that when I was 14.
 01/14/2005 11:36:06 PM · #32
Well, it seems to me no one was hurt and two had a good time until everybody and the kitchen sink got involved.
 01/14/2005 11:43:11 PM · #33
rape....
 01/14/2005 11:44:25 PM · #34
Originally posted by marbo:
Say it was a 23 year old male teacher and 14 year old school girl.
I`m guessing he would get the chair in the USA.
I`m all for equality :)


No, he wouldn't get the chair, but he might wish for it in response to his fellow inmates' expressions of disfavor as to his choice of sexual partners.
 01/14/2005 11:45:55 PM · #35
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Originally posted by BAMartin:
How would you feel if this was your son? How about your daughter?


Depends... did she get an A?


That's really not funny.
 01/14/2005 11:48:19 PM · #36
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Well, it seems to me no one was hurt and two had a good time until everybody and the kitchen sink got involved.


You can't possibly be serious about that remark, can you? He is a child and she is a teacher...there is something inherently wrong with that picture, "good time" or not. I'm absolutely floored at your comment.
01/14/2005 11:48:56 PM · #37
to me it does not matter the gender of the people, its the age that is the key factor. And yes she should go to jail and serve her time just like a man would have to do if he has sex with 14 year old girl.

No double standards, if you broke a law you broke a law, end of story

James
 01/14/2005 11:53:16 PM · #38
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Well, it seems to me no one was hurt and two had a good time until everybody and the kitchen sink got involved.


Can we take that as your endorsement of rape?

I'm sorry, but any adult who would manipulate a child into having sex is a sexual predator. Especially if that adult is in a position of authority and trust (like a teacher) over that child. It's wrong, sick and wrong.
01/14/2005 11:57:18 PM · #39
I am with lauriel on this one. I have a 13 yr old son and yes the hormones are running around but if i knew that a teacher had assulted him in this way (whether he said yes or not) I would be laying very serious charges against the person responsible. How dare they take their authority and purposely use it to take advantage of minors.
In my opinion, she should be tried and sent to prison. Get some serious therapy while shes there too. When she is releases she should never be able to teach again. People like this sicken me.
 01/15/2005 12:05:15 AM · #40
I think this is obvious, but with a male student it's a high five situation accented with a "way to go, son!" If the student had been female, it would be viewed as totally different. Obviously, the male consented to the sex, and what 14 year old male wouldn't? And wuith a 23 year old...my, my, my...sorry got off track there for a second. I doubt a 14 year old female would have consented to sex with a 23 year old male teacher. I believe that even at that young age, females are more aware and have more sense about them when it comes to sex. What this gets down to- Male student= Consented, Female student= Rape. I don't condone the teachers acts or agree with them, but do your really think the sex would've had a terrible affect on the boy? I personally believe the court process is doing him more harm than the sex. Please, don't take this the wrong way. I'm not condoning sex with 14 year-olds.
 01/15/2005 12:14:18 AM · #41
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
To be student or teacher? ;)

Originally posted by micknewton:
So, who was this teacher anyway? I've been thinking about going back to school to further my education.

Oh, a little of both I imagine. I certainly don't know it all, and I could probably teach her a thing or two.


01/15/2005 12:20:51 AM · #42
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Well, it seems to me no one was hurt and two had a good time until everybody and the kitchen sink got involved.


Can we take that as your endorsement of rape?...


Certainly not.
The original post and thread title pose this as a question. From the facts of the incident as given and discussed here, I do not see any need for legal intervention. The purpose of law is not to limit individual liberties, but to prevent and curb harm. As I said, I see no harm done.

Just because you and, possibly, others find someone's conduct 'wrong, sick and wrong', is no reason I have to.

The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state.
-Tacitus

Message edited by author 2005-01-15 00:22:33.
 01/15/2005 12:24:10 AM · #43
Originally posted by thewriterside:
Obviously, the male consented to the sex, and what 14 year old male wouldn't? I doubt a 14 year old female would have consented to sex with a 23 year old male teacher.


Neither a 14 year old boy or a 14 year old girl is able to give consent. So, the sex could not be consensual.
 01/15/2005 12:27:19 AM · #44
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Well, it seems to me no one was hurt and two had a good time until everybody and the kitchen sink got involved.


Can we take that as your endorsement of rape?...


Certainly not.

As I said, I see no harm done.



Then I can only conclude that you must be either blind or your moral compass must be demagnetized if you would consider sex with children to be a harmless activity.

Message edited by author 2005-01-15 00:29:23.
 01/15/2005 12:29:19 AM · #45
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by thewriterside:
Obviously, the male consented to the sex, and what 14 year old male wouldn't? I doubt a 14 year old female would have consented to sex with a 23 year old male teacher.


Neither a 14 year old boy or a 14 year old girl is able to give consent. So, the sex could not be consensual.


But there is a difference between consent and agreement. A male would agree, but I don't believe a female would. And yes, a 14 year old does have the abiltiy to consent, they just don't have the full ability to reason.
 01/15/2005 12:30:22 AM · #46
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Well, it seems to me no one was hurt and two had a good time until everybody and the kitchen sink got involved.


Can we take that as your endorsement of rape?...


Certainly not.

As I said, I see no harm done.



Then I can only conclude that you must be blind.


One could consider this a foregone conclusion.
 01/15/2005 12:31:21 AM · #47
Originally posted by thewriterside:

And yes, a 14 year old does have the abiltiy to consent.


Not legally.


01/15/2005 12:36:28 AM · #48
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by thewriterside:

And yes, a 14 year old does have the abiltiy to consent.


Not legally.


Exactly! They still have the physical ability to consent, but because they can't fully reason, it is not legal.

Message edited by author 2005-01-15 00:39:50.
 01/15/2005 12:37:18 AM · #49
void

Message edited by author 2005-01-15 00:38:00.
 01/15/2005 12:41:22 AM · #50
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by thewriterside:

And yes, a 14 year old does have the abiltiy to consent.


Not legally.
Depends in what country... Legal age for sex has been abolished in Canada a few years back...
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