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12/23/2004 08:21:27 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by doctornick:
This is a way underrated photo that deserves at least a top ten. A very creative and well done photo with subtle reference to wind as in wind instrument. |
I am pleased you liked this shot. I really like it too. I have a picture of him smoking cigarette with the smoke carried by the wind but I opted for this because it is technically better. Iam here now in Manila, Philippines, and I don't get as much time to get my hands in the computer. Sorry I can't be as active as I want to. I guess "Wind" will probably be my last entry for this year. Thanks "dortornick" for
noticing this picture.
Merry Christmas to everyone.
Manny
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12/23/2004 08:35:01 AM · #27 |
Like was mentioned a few weeks back This Member is probably the most under rated of all ;)
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12/23/2004 08:39:12 AM · #28 |
| Cute,,,,,very cute, but who am I do disagree. |
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12/23/2004 08:54:25 AM · #29 |
| Look on the bright side..... there were 275 votes that were not a 1 or a 2. ( I gave a 6 fyi, but most of my votes are 4-5-6-7, with exceptionally good or bad photos being on either side of those numbers....) May not sound fair, but when I look at the final results compared to my votes, I am usually in line with the average except for a few.... works for me better than therapy... :) |
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12/23/2004 08:57:10 AM · #30 |
Also my choice for Blue:
...And the next one is a fine image, but I thought the connection to WIND was tenuous and so gave it a five... (I'm a little slow and "woodwind" didn't occur to me):
Interesting that these two scored so closely to one another at 31st and 33rd. May go to show that the voters (more than 63,000 in the WIND challenge) all equal out and reflect the collective wisdom of DPC, no?
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12/23/2004 10:09:18 AM · #31 |
Gusto,
I click on your link and get MY profile. At first I was overwhelmed with good feelings, but closer examination showed the link to be a generic portfolio link; I think it takes any clicker to their own portfolio. Hard to underrate me since I have yet to enter a challenge.
On the "underrated" entries, I also scored the woodwind, the grief, and the blue/yellow weeds photo pretty high.
(robt)
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12/23/2004 10:12:42 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
Gusto,
I click on your link and get MY profile. |
...sshhhhh... it's a joke... it's supposed to do that! |
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12/23/2004 10:28:40 AM · #33 |
| Something strange has just happened to me. I was looking at various american flags as entered in the wind challenge and I felt a sense of unease. I am by no means one of those lefty anti-americans but the images of the flag that various artists have submitted carry an altogether different meaning today, for me, than they did 10 years ago. Please no more american flags. |
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12/23/2004 10:34:47 AM · #34 |
Don't Fence Me In
You objections are noted. Not everyone shares your feelings though ... |
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12/23/2004 10:39:40 AM · #35 |
| You felt unease at the sight of an american flag???? I am so glad that I don't suffer from that affliction, I might drive myself right off of the bridge during one of my weekly visits to the USA. |
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12/23/2004 11:11:39 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by londondavid:
Something strange has just happened to me. I was looking at various american flags as entered in the wind challenge and I felt a sense of unease. I am by no means one of those lefty anti-americans but the images of the flag that various artists have submitted carry an altogether different meaning today, for me, than they did 10 years ago. Please no more american flags. |
Uh what do you mean no more american flags??? If people want to take a photo of an american flag that's their right. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but you do come across as a "lefty-anti-american" And I'm a Canadian... |
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12/23/2004 11:18:40 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by londondavid:
Something strange has just happened to me. I was looking at various american flags as entered in the wind challenge and I felt a sense of unease. I am by no means one of those lefty anti-americans but the images of the flag that various artists have submitted carry an altogether different meaning today, for me, than they did 10 years ago. Please no more american flags. |
As on of the artist that submitted a flag photograph in the wind challenge please indulge me by telling me how my flag photograph gave you a sense of unease and how it gave you a different meaning today than 10 years ago. I would like to know. |
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12/23/2004 11:42:27 AM · #38 |
perhaps my comments were misunderstood. I can't explain the feeling myself, it's very difficult to put into words let alone justify. I am not anti-american, far from it, and that is why I considered the emotion that I felt, "strange".
Perhaps I feel that patriotism, and the flag is the greatest visual expression of that, has been abused recently? I'm sure you're all bright enough to know what I mean, regardless of your political persuasion.
I think the stars and stripes as an IMAGE, not as the flag of a very great country, has been hijacked to mean more than patriotism but (dare I say it!) imperialism. Today, as far as images go it's perfectly paraded infront of red-knecks subverting the real questions...
That's all. |
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12/23/2004 05:09:33 PM · #39 |
| Perhaps this should be moved to the rant section... or possibly a politics web site instead of a DP site... non-the less, in America (oops, excuse me, the United States of America), we do not censor art... |
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12/23/2004 05:13:11 PM · #40 |
| I think we are still discussing the photos themselves, and our responses to them. We are not debating the political issues they relate to. As long as we keep it to that and discuss the photos, and not the "issues" or each other, I think it can stay here. |
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12/23/2004 05:16:02 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by londondavid:
I think the stars and stripes as an IMAGE, not as the flag of a very great country, has been hijacked to mean more than patriotism but (dare I say it!) imperialism. Today, as far as images go it's perfectly paraded infront of red-knecks subverting the real questions... |
Ouch. |
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12/23/2004 05:28:29 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by xtabintun:
Originally posted by londondavid:
I think the stars and stripes as an IMAGE, not as the flag of a very great country, has been hijacked to mean more than patriotism but (dare I say it!) imperialism. Today, as far as images go it's perfectly paraded infront of red-knecks subverting the real questions... |
Ouch. |
A sad comment. Truth be told, there exist glaring examples of similar scenarios involving the red ensign. Surely you cannot believe that selective snippets displayed in the media are reflective of the collective.
Viewed in a similar content, those of us who reside in North America might be justified in believing that all individuals who attend football (soccer) matches are hooligans.
I am certain that you would agree with me that such generalizations do little to enlighten anyone. |
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12/23/2004 05:51:12 PM · #43 |
I am making no reference to the people... at all. I am merely documenting a reaction I had to an image. I am not making any generalisations, a great number of my close friends are from North America. The point I am making is that the associations I make now with the image that is the stars and stripes flapping in the wind (as was so skillfully captured) are no longer positive but sad.
It is a political point but at the juncture with art. Debate along those lines would be healthy in my opinion. |
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12/23/2004 06:20:45 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by londondavid:
... The point I am making is that the associations I make now with the image that is the stars and stripes flapping in the wind (as was so skillfully captured) are no longer positive but sad.
It is a political point but at the juncture with art. Debate along those lines would be healthy in my opinion. |
So I'll pledge allegience against the flag
And the fall for which it stands
But I'll raise it if I can
--Phil Ochs (1968)
The question is what to do about the feelings you have ... so far I take our ability to continue to express both love of country and dismay over some decisions/positions of those who control its government as the one positive sign that the Founders' dream of democracy has not been completely exiled to the realm of historical fantasy.
Personally, I shoot them a lot for a variety of reasons (like practicing a repeatable subject). The ones I choose for display tend to have something in their composition or lighting which try to show that conflict.
The above quotation was written after the police riots in Chicago during the Democratic Convention. Unfortunately, Mr. Ochs was himself so disillusioned by the decline of democracy that he took his own life a few years later, leaving behind some of the most beautiful melodies in the folk/protest genre. |
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12/23/2004 06:36:41 PM · #45 |
| GeneralE wearing the hat is a great laugh :D (since the thread is not going where it's supposed to) |
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12/23/2004 08:26:30 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by xion:
GeneralE wearing the hat is a great laugh :D (since the thread is not going where it's supposed to) |
Until 2 weeks ago I had the beard to match, without any assistance from iconographers : ) |
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12/23/2004 08:48:39 PM · #47 |
this should have won with out a doubt!!!!!
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12/23/2004 09:00:24 PM · #48 |
| I just want to see my hat. |
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12/23/2004 10:09:19 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by ursula:
I just want to see my hat. |
Hey, there!
Nice hat. |
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12/27/2004 05:05:28 AM · #50 |
Originally posted by colda:
Please understand that sometimes people want noise on an image, it might not be to your taste but that's not to say that it's wrong. Also you will find that there are those that decide to use an abstract rather than a literal interpretation of a a challenge theme, on many occasions this can be a breath of fresh air :)
An open mind can be a great asset in the creative world of photography. |
Too true! I must admit to getting lost sometimes in the strain to attain "film perfection".
I think when noise and artifacts are intentional, that is all good, it is only when they appear due to the lack of the photographic knowledge (or knowledge of their tools) that something should be said about it. |
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