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11/23/2004 12:50:18 PM · #1 |
I was wondering by myself what do you have to do to recieve comments on a normal forum, or picture? is it that hard to give a comment. I really makes a person happy when you recieve a comment, but people seem to be or to busy or they just don't really care about what other people try to achieve with there effort on photography. I'm not ordering people to comment, but DOESn't anyone like to recieve comments? Is it to hard to just say i like or i do not like it, or even give a nice comment, there are people here who could pass there skills to others, but it seems like they want to keep it all for them selfs. I know this has been posted but maybe one more post will make the difference. Don't want to offend no one with this post. I would just like for people to start commenting a little more after all this is a give and take site, to achieve experience by others. I like to learn like all of you do. Just hope that some reads this thread and COMMENT to. Sorry for the caps words. Whos on this boat?
Sorry again for the long thread and for the caps and for my thoughts.
Message edited by author 2004-11-23 12:53:20.
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11/23/2004 12:58:29 PM · #2 |
It may not seem it at first, but at least on other sites, the best way to get comments is to make sure you comment on others work. People will them recognize your name as someone who offers helpful comments, and they may be more willing to spend the time commenting on yours.
As they say, it is better to give than to receive.
Right now you are running even between comments given and received, so you are the benefactor.
You can also learn a lot by commenting.
Regards--Neil |
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11/23/2004 01:16:44 PM · #3 |
Man you can say all that for me too!
I was going to post a rant for my first time and you just took the words right out of my mouth. I am not a professional and my pictures suck compared to most all here but I come here to learn. Sunday night I posted a thread where I missed the challenge by minutes to enter picture for passing time. I come back today and theres nothing. I can take it if the picture sucks or if you told me to get lost! Be honest! I am about to give up votting and only come here to see photos from my favorite photographers cause thats where I have learned the most from!
Message edited by author 2004-11-23 13:18:18.
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11/23/2004 01:23:57 PM · #4 |
Thats what i'm talking about, the comments in a forum if i but there the pictures for people to view i would like to see comments on them, i'm not just putting up my fotos just because i don't have nothing to do. i put them up to share and improve. Or must i be a great photographer to recieve comments?!? i know people see my photos, and everyone nows that. i know i slip some commenting on the forum but there are like 50 people in the site in an hour and not even 1 comment. is that normal!?!? it seems like it is. Not always i comment on a picture because sometimes i can't say something to improve it, or i'm not very fond of that picture, so sometimes it's better not for me to say something, but i know there are many people who have something to say but they just keep it to there selfs or just don't bother. sorry again for the lecture.
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11/23/2004 01:29:41 PM · #5 |
| It's quite possible that people are directing their commenting efforts towards the challenges. There are nearly 800 entries right now; that's a lot to tackle! While the forums are definitely an important aspect of this site, it may also help to keep in mind that this site is first and foremost a contest site and it's possible that more people put their attention towards that than forum threads. |
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11/23/2004 01:56:42 PM · #6 |
Hi all,
Discraft I do agree with you on comments. But at the same time I have to agree with mk. Comments are very helpful when received and when given. I have, up to this challenge, been reluctant in giving detailed comments for fear that I was not seeing the picture right or I may offend someone. I decided yesterday to comment as I see the photograph and not just leave it up to the professional commenter. So you will see my comments give start climbing even though Iâm already at a 2g: 1r ratio. But as Mk states I mostly give comments in the challenge. We have found ourselves here a DPChallenge in a difficult situation. The amount of entries are doubling and sometimes tripling an average challenge. People are finding very hard to vote on that many entries and comment as well. I believe most users are going to comment on challenge first then if they have time comment on forum pictures. But when you ask for a critique in a forum it usually come by the way of a reply not a comment. Here is what I am trying to do:
1. I have posted a link on my profile page and in my forum signature area that takes users to my profile page.
2. I do that hoping they will visit and comment. This way I donât have to post them in the forums.
3. It has not help as of yet but I have faith in most users and I believe I will get comments on them.
At this point I think it is a time issue. Above number of entries to have to vote on and comment on has even slowed down the forums. I donât know if anyone else has noticed that or just me.
In conclusion I hope you begin to get more comments and I [when time allows] will look at you portfolio and try to leave a few comments. Take care and good luck with comments and challenges.
Fellow DPCâer
Scott W.
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11/23/2004 02:31:16 PM · #7 |
Another little thing that may help you get more\better comments is to say, "Thank you" for the ones you do get. For myself, I donât want or expect a huge outpouring of gratitude for giving someone my opinion of their work, but a simple âthanksâ, or at least some form of acknowledgement, lets me know that the person has at least read my comment. Itâs just common courtesy (which is sadly not too common nowadays.)
To me, itâs just plain rude to give nothing back, and rude people suck.
Just an opinion.
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11/23/2004 02:42:54 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by tolovemoon:
Man you can say all that for me too!
I was going to post a rant for my first time and you just took the words right out of my mouth. I am not a professional and my pictures suck compared to most all here but I come here to learn. Sunday night I posted a thread where I missed the challenge by minutes to enter picture for passing time. I come back today and theres nothing. I can take it if the picture sucks or if you told me to get lost! Be honest! I am about to give up votting and only come here to see photos from my favorite photographers cause thats where I have learned the most from! |
I know from experience that the worst time to post in the forum for a critique is when the voting has just kicked off on a challenge or in the last couple of hours before a challenge finishes. Sometimes it's just a matter of timing.
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11/23/2004 02:51:46 PM · #9 |
I believe there are many people on this site that are still willing to share the experience and knowledge. I have noticed that there isn't as much response as in the past, but there has been some tension within the community that might have made people consider their comments more carefully. I believe a photographer (not you in specific) could get better input if they describe what they tried to achieve in the image and specific questions on that approach. This makes it easier to respond with why the image works or doesn't work.
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11/23/2004 03:14:16 PM · #10 |
I'd like to mention that some people don't comment for the very same reasons that you yourself gave. They think if they can't say anything positive, they won't say anything at all.
I try to at least acknowledge a request for comments, but if someone is posting requests quite often, I don't. After a certain point I begin to feel that person is being selfish. Sorry.
Another factor is voting for the challenge. It took me a long time this time around just for the b/w. |
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11/23/2004 03:54:21 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by micknewton:
Another little thing that may help you get more\better comments is to say, "Thank you" for the ones you do get. For myself, I donât want or expect a huge outpouring of gratitude for giving someone my opinion of their work, but a simple âthanksâ, or at least some form of acknowledgement, lets me know that the person has at least read my comment. Itâs just common courtesy (which is sadly not too common nowadays.)
To me, itâs just plain rude to give nothing back, and rude people suck.
Just an opinion. |
You bring up a complicated issue. I agree with you that a commenter should be thanked. But I have read thread after thread where people do not want to be PM'ed about a comment. So I take that into consideration, who do you PM and say thank you? I feel checking the box as 'helpful' underneath the comment is a way of telling the commenter thank you. Do you think that is an appropriate way of saying thank you? I donât want to make someone mad by PMâing there email address. What do you think? Should there be another check box next to the 'helpful' checkbox that says 'thank you for your comment'. I would love to know which is the best way to thank people. I believe they should be thanked for their comment.
Message edited by author 2004-11-23 16:08:08.
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11/23/2004 05:56:10 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by SDW65:
You bring up a complicated issue. I agree with you that a commenter should be thanked. But I have read thread after thread where people do not want to be PM'ed about a comment. So I take that into consideration, who do you PM and say thank you? I feel checking the box as 'helpful' underneath the comment is a way of telling the commenter thank you. Do you think that is an appropriate way of saying thank you? I donât want to make someone mad by PMâing there email address. What do you think? Should there be another check box next to the 'helpful' checkbox that says 'thank you for your comment'. I would love to know which is the best way to thank people. I believe they should be thanked for their comment. |
I agree that it's not necessary to thank everyone that gives you a comment, especially on challenge entries. However, I don't see it as being particularly harmful either. You donât need to send personal messages either because every challenge entry has a thread attached to it. Simply checking a comment as helpful, while not as nice as a thank you, at least acknowledges the person's effort.
I think that it is necessary when someone posts a photo, or group of photos, in a forum and asks for comments. All too often I see people ask for critiques of their photos, and then not bother to take the time to say thanks. Or even worse, thank only the one that offered praise. The absolute worst are the ones that only say thanks to the popular photographers and ignore the rest. That is so pathetic that itâs actually funny.
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