Surface Tension
by KarenNfld

Comment:
You put third dimension with the reflected pattern which is a big plus. Very well done! Congratulations on your ribbon!

May - Melting & Falling Water
by miary

Comment:
Hey I know this waterfall. Awesome shot! don't know it's that beautiful this June. Congratulations on your PB!

Absolut fulfilling
by william88

Comment:

Originally posted by keegbow: Originally posted by william88: “resort to breaking the rules”?? There are so many DQ owners in dpc and I think “mistakenly broke the rules” is a better phrase for them. People didn’t read the rules carefully or just didn’t understand some of the rules are the real reason of breaking the rules. But why should you care about that? All top 5 photos are required to submit the proof and the SCs have done their jobs thoroughly so you know DQ = no ribbon. I agree most people are DQ for mistakenly breaking the rules and they generally learn by those mistakes. But both you and HighNooner have been DQ for repeated offenses usually for similar reasons, plenty has been said regarding this in the forums I will leave it up to others to form an opinion. Originally posted by william88: Now if you compare “mistakenly broke the rules” to “strategically voted 1’s on your guessed ribbon contenders”, which one do you think is committed to criminal mind? And which one do you think would actually hurt people? Neither are criminal and both are breaking the rules and hurt the users of the site. Originally posted by william88: You rarely post negative comment or against any person on dpc. But as soon as you see my “awareness raising chart”, you started your opposite opinions here. Why? Panic? I have no reason to panic my integrity is not in question here. Yes I did react to your chart as it gave my an insight to your thought process and it alarmed me that you take this ribbon chase so serious! I'm no doctor but I would assume it would almost be unhealthy for the mind to let it bother you so much.... hence my remark for you to "chill" Originally posted by william88: In HighNooner’s reply to Debbi, he didn’t even mention your name and he didn’t use any strong word. Why should those question marks cause your motivation to write something against him, Debbi? Oh, I am sorry, just typo. When I have an opinion on a subject sometimes I like to express it. Like I tried to express in my original post here.....all this rant is tainting such a lovely image.

Look how unscientific you are. You didn’t even check my DQ history, right? NONE of my DQ was repeated mistake! Go check it.
Even if somebody suffered memory-lose and made the same mistake again, he/she didn’t hurt you at all and is none of your business.
Your logic is kind of strange, whenever a DQ announced, you benefit from it by advancing one place. Why should you mind other people’s DQs? You just can not control your madness and have to find an excuse to offensively attack here.

My healthy “thought process” was clearly documented right under the chart’s thumbnail. My original purpose was to give an advice like “you got to consider your investment”. I don’t see why this advice made you so mad. As we can see, you never been so offensive or mad before my chart was posted. Other people like to argue regularly in the forum. But arguing was not your hobby at all until you see my “awareness raising chart”. Hey, I think it’s too late for you to explain your behavior, because history is there permanently. People can just check all your comments in your profile.

Absolut fulfilling
by william88

Comment:

Originally posted by keegbow: Originally posted by HighNooner: Originally posted by Debbi: I never saw anyone on this forum NEED to win a digital (worthless) blue ribbon as bad as you. Just paying someone for the setup should disqualify you, but you were only honest about it I guess. Yes, it is fantastic, but not really yours in my opinion (which is just as worthless as your worthless digital blue ribbon). The rant is because you want folks here to beg you for the setup. You don't really care about Brian Mumford. If you did you would have said something before folks asked how you did it. You could have praised him in the beginning and put a link to his website. Not to a link that doesn't work. What a waste of time making the graphic. What does it prove? How small you really are! I do not drink, I am against Alcohol intake, advertisement and make, and I DID NOT vote on this challenge, but this is a great photo. I asked myself Debbi, after I read your post : Why would she have so much anger against the desire and urge to compete, win and make exceptional work? And why does she compete here if she does not have some, just a little some, desire to win, at least once? Because she , you Debbi, if you do not have that urge you are better of posting your photos on flicker or facebook where you do not have to worry about guys seeking excellence in something the love doing, and are willing to pay money and spend dear time perfecting, and even then when people all people publish on non-competition sites that means they seek appreciation and acknowledgement in a way or another. So, so much for william88 wanting to win so bad because you and I and the rest want to win, not as much, more or less, agreed; but with the varying desire in individuals to win comes the ability and dedication which too may vary between individuals. I travel 300 - 5000km to take a photo spending way more the the $300 dollars spent on making such a wonderful photo, we do this because we love photography; people do spend money and time on their hobbies. I do not want to be a judge or make ruling here, but I think you will change to the better if you make one win and get a ribbon. I do not want to come stronger than I should, but answer me this: Do you like to win just once? You see HighNooner some people take the winning thing way too far, it's like all competition, it can bring out the best and worst in people. Some people here resort to breaking the rules to win a virtual ribbon.....just looking at your profile I notice we have entered a similar amount of challenges but I have never been Disqualified for an entry which is something you can't say. You and William have both been disqualified for breaking the rules......maybe its time to think about if winning at ALL cost is that important?

“resort to breaking the rules”?? There are so many DQ owners in dpc and I think “mistakenly broke the rules” is a better phrase for them. People didn’t read the rules carefully or just didn’t understand some of the rules are the real reason of breaking the rules. But why should you care about that? All top 5 photos are required to submit the proof and the SCs have done their jobs thoroughly so you know DQ = no ribbon.

Now if you compare “mistakenly broke the rules” to “strategically voted 1’s on your guessed ribbon contenders”, which one do you think is committed to criminal mind? And which one do you think would actually hurt people?
You rarely post negative comment or against any person on dpc. But as soon as you see my “awareness raising chart”, you started your opposite opinions here. Why? Panic?
In HighNooner’s reply to Debbi, he didn’t even mention your name and he didn’t use any strong word. Why should those question marks cause your motivation to write something against him, Debbi? Oh, I am sorry, just typo.

Absolut fulfilling
by william88

Comment:

Originally posted by Debbi: I never saw anyone on this forum NEED to win a digital (worthless) blue ribbon as bad as you. Just paying someone for the setup should disqualify you, but you were only honest about it I guess. Yes, it is fantastic, but not really yours in my opinion (which is just as worthless as your worthless digital blue ribbon). The rant is because you want folks here to beg you for the setup. You don't really care about Brian Mumford. If you did you would have said something before folks asked how you did it. You could have praised him in the beginning and put a link to his website. Not to a link that doesn't work. What a waste of time making the graphic. What does it prove? How small you really are!

1. Avg Vote Cast: 4.4225. Why don’t you continue your strategy? Look how dirty your initial conspiracy was. No matter how much I wanted to win, I used my photography skills instead of your conspiracy.

2. I didn’t pay for the setup, please upgrade your reading glasses.

3. How did your brain compile the word Mumford which is nothing to do with my contracted Brian? Please upgrade your firmware, if possible.

4. Don’t you know this page is accessible by non-registered people? Of course my contracted Brian had read this page and verified the “conditional working hyperlink”. He wants to keep the way it works right now for his own purpose which only intelligent people know why. Especially after he read your comment and received messages from other noble dpc members.

5. Now how did your brain compile “his website” which never been exist?

6. You are totally conflicting yourself. I don’t want anybody to beg for the hint at all. Let’s see an example, if you revealed all the tricks of a magician, he will be out of business and he will hate you and next time he will not help you anymore. So why should I breach the contract and let people beg for the hint if you said that I want to win so badly? His future help is more likely to fulfill your hypothetic "badly wish to win in my mind". Remember, the voting system is fully anonymous here.

7. The real cause of the rant was my “awareness-raising chart”. It enraged oldbimmercoupe (Avg Vote Cast was 4.9787, now 5.0006), dan_d (Avg Vote Cast: 4.9457 now), and Debbi (Avg Vote Cast: 4.4225 now)

8. It’s my freedom to pay anyone who can provide useful equipments to me. It’s none of your business. Remember, your 5D Mark II is more expensive than my 7D.

9. It’s my freedom to use any helpful tools to track my own score and make my own chart. It’s none of your business. The excel workbook had been available on dpc for years; many people downloaded and used it to save their time of clicking update button.

Absolut fulfilling
by william88

Comment:

Originally posted by dan_d: Originally posted by william88: Wow! your profile tells why you are mad at my screed and awareness-raising chart: Votes Cast: 20,810 Avg Vote Cast: 4.9787 Actually, that profile is exactly what everyone's voter profile should look like: lots of votes, averaging out to exactly "average". Why would you expect anything else? 'Average' by definition means 'middle' (i know, 'median' probably qualifies better for that definition, but no need to get all jumpy with semantics...) so why would an average of over 20000 votes not be very near 5? I'm sure with that many votes this person has seen his fair share of crap as well as exceptional pics such as this one, so why are you trying to detract from his (very valid) criticism by character assassination? Besides, you know this shot is exceptional, I know it, everyone who sees it knows it, so who gives a hit what random internet trolls vote or why? From the info on your website, i'd say your old enough to know that the real world just operates in stupid ways whether you like it or not... better just to roll with it and move on DD

WOW! WOW! everybody, dan_d's profile is even more interesting!

Friendly hint to dan_d: The average of 1 to 10 is 5.5, NOT 5. Ask your math teacher.

BTW, the awareness raising activities are always helpful so the real world has been improved from time to time.

Absolut fulfilling
by william88

Comment:

Originally posted by oldbimmercoupe: a blue ribbon for "poor winner" worst screed Ive read here in years. your budget and anal retentive charts pretty much says it all. congratulations on your fine whine, er, win. totally detracts from the heartfelt story of brian.

Wow! your profile tells why you are mad at my screed and awareness-raising chart:
Votes Cast: 20,810
Avg Vote Cast: 4.9787

Message edited by author 2011-07-01 12:17:34.

Absolut fulfilling
by william88

Comment:

Originally posted by markyxxx: congratulations..........are you talking bout Brian Mumford?

No

I Guess We're Done
by MinsoPhoto

Comment:
Great one!

Sunrise Reflections
by AllenP

Comment:
Wow! love this!