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| 10/29/2008 06:02:04 PM |
tednugent.jpgby alanfreedComment by vxpra: Aum...is Ted strangling that girl? :)
ETA: Great Members Only jacket. Message edited by author 2008-10-29 18:03:50. |
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| 10/27/2008 11:14:14 PM |
obama3.jpgby alanfreedComment by kenskid: Just two votes from each of you...that's all I ask.
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| 10/22/2008 10:11:09 AM |
obama.jpgby alanfreedComment by kenskid: Did you even read Obama's quote?
an additional doctor who then has to be called in an emergency situation to come in and make these assessments is really designed simply to burden the original decision of the woman and the physician to induce labor and perform an abortion
If a baby is born alive after a botched abortion "an additional doctor who then has to be called in....is really designed simply to BURDEN the original decision of the woman and the physician to induce labor and perform an abortion."
A doctor coming in to save the baby is infringing on the woman's right to an abortion.
You simply can not spin this any other way.
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Originally posted by kenskid:
In other words...to save the baby that was born due to a botched abortion would infringe on the woman's right to choose. |
Simply put: no. From the Factcheck article you posted: "The main bills under discussion, SB 1082 and the federal BAIPA, are both definition bills. They are not about what can and should be done to babies; they are about how one defines "baby" in the first place. ...there are already laws in Illinois, which Obama has said he supports, that protect these children even when they are born as the result of an abortion." |
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| 10/21/2008 03:53:44 PM |
obama.jpgby alanfreedComment by scalvert: Originally posted by kenskid:
In other words...to save the baby that was born due to a botched abortion would infringe on the woman's right to choose. |
Simply put: no. From the Factcheck article you posted: "The main bills under discussion, SB 1082 and the federal BAIPA, are both definition bills. They are not about what can and should be done to babies; they are about how one defines "baby" in the first place. ...there are already laws in Illinois, which Obama has said he supports, that protect these children even when they are born as the result of an abortion." |
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