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Collection: Funny Candidates
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10/22/2008 10:11:09 AM
Did you even read Obama's quote?

an additional doctor who then has to be called in an emergency situation to come in and make these assessments is really designed simply to burden the original decision of the woman and the physician to induce labor and perform an abortion

If a baby is born alive after a botched abortion "an additional doctor who then has to be called in....is really designed simply to BURDEN the original decision of the woman and the physician to induce labor and perform an abortion."

A doctor coming in to save the baby is infringing on the woman's right to an abortion.

You simply can not spin this any other way.

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by kenskid:

In other words...to save the baby that was born due to a botched abortion would infringe on the woman's right to choose.

Simply put: no. From the Factcheck article you posted: "The main bills under discussion, SB 1082 and the federal BAIPA, are both definition bills. They are not about what can and should be done to babies; they are about how one defines "baby" in the first place. ...there are already laws in Illinois, which Obama has said he supports, that protect these children even when they are born as the result of an abortion."
10/21/2008 03:53:44 PM
Originally posted by kenskid:

In other words...to save the baby that was born due to a botched abortion would infringe on the woman's right to choose.

Simply put: no. From the Factcheck article you posted: "The main bills under discussion, SB 1082 and the federal BAIPA, are both definition bills. They are not about what can and should be done to babies; they are about how one defines "baby" in the first place. ...there are already laws in Illinois, which Obama has said he supports, that protect these children even when they are born as the result of an abortion."
10/21/2008 02:34:08 PM
Here is the exact quote:

Obama, Senate floor, 2002:

[A]dding a an additional doctor who then has to be called in an emergency situation to come in and make these assessments is really designed simply to burden the original decision of the woman and the physician to induce labor and perform an abortion. I think its important to understand that this issue ultimately is about abortion and not live births.

***kenskid***
this is public record...the full quote (before the [A]dding listed above) went something like:

If a baby is born alive and ...an additional doctor...

or If the fetus is delivered alive...an additional doctor....

but the full quote above is enough...it is saying that calling in another doctor (for the baby born alive) is REALLY DESIGNED SIMPLY TO BURDEN THE ORIGINAL DECISION OF THE WOMAN AND THE PHYSICIAN ...TO PERFORM AN ABORTION...

In other words...to save the baby that was born due to a botched abortion would infringe on the woman's right to choose.

See more here

Message edited by author 2008-10-21 14:35:29.
10/21/2008 01:41:52 PM
I'll dig it up for you...it was recorded when he was a state senator. I heard it myself on a newsradio show...don't remember which one...I'll find it.

Originally posted by vxpra:

Originally posted by kenskid:

Don't call the doctor...leave the baby in the pan...calling another doctor in will infringe on the mother's right to choose.

I didn't make it up....he said this.


Odd, is this from an alternate reality. Can't find anything on this- Source please???

Or do you mean at one point or another in his life Obama has used all these words and you're just assembling them here?

Just did a lexis-nexis search- nothing.
10/18/2008 07:34:59 PM
Originally posted by kenskid:

Don't call the doctor...leave the baby in the pan...calling another doctor in will infringe on the mother's right to choose.

I didn't make it up....he said this.


Odd, is this from an alternate reality. Can't find anything on this- Source please???

Or do you mean at one point or another in his life Obama has used all these words and you're just assembling them here?

Just did a lexis-nexis search- nothing.

Message edited by author 2008-10-18 19:41:53.
10/18/2008 11:18:20 AM
Originally posted by kenskid:

Don't call the doctor...leave the baby in the pan...calling another doctor in will infringe on the mother's right to choose.

I didn't make it up....he said this.


Source please? Google comes up empty.

~Terry
10/18/2008 10:55:25 AM
Don't call the doctor...leave the baby in the pan...calling another doctor in will infringe on the mother's right to choose.

I didn't make it up....he said this.
10/18/2008 12:40:07 AM
The better to hear you with. My dear.
10/17/2008 04:47:01 PM
what ever happened to his lapel flag .
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10/17/2008 03:40:02 PM
Frank the Farmer Fervently Filled a Ford Flatbed with Freedom Fries
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10/17/2008 03:30:24 PM
F*** Joe the Plumber!
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10/17/2008 02:45:53 PM
As I've said before, it's Frank. Barack FRANK Obama.
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10/17/2008 02:06:50 PM
FR, FRRR, FFF, Fanny Mae
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10/16/2008 10:23:14 PM
This is not my bong
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10/16/2008 10:16:20 PM
never mind...bad comment...not fun or funny.

Message edited by author 2008-10-16 22:17:05.
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10/16/2008 09:49:26 PM
Guess who's about to drop the f-bomb...

:)
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10/16/2008 09:37:55 PM
"Okay.... who put superglue on the mic?"
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10/16/2008 09:31:49 PM
"dude where's my car?"
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10/16/2008 05:26:08 PM
I don't think that was a breath mint McCain gave me...
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10/16/2008 05:01:56 PM
I can sleep through this election and still win it.
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10/16/2008 04:48:40 PM
"What's up, Doc?"
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10/16/2008 04:41:22 PM
I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti
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10/16/2008 04:29:49 PM
The trick is to crack open the ACORNS with your front teeth, like this...
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10/16/2008 04:21:08 PM
For some reason, this expression makes me think of Johnny Carson saying "Hmmmm, it's so good." Perhaps Obama is reliving an early marijuana experience.
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10/16/2008 04:00:02 PM
Jet lag is a bitch.
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10/16/2008 02:22:22 PM
I AM SAM :P
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