waiting-for-dinner-2-dpc.jpg
by sajin

Comment:
Good macro, especially considering this is likely hand-held. 'Works' as is, but perhaps a nudge rotation for symmetry, not sure. The detail is good on the 'body' and legs, just a fraction of blur, but minor and again likely due to this being hand-held. I might be seeing things, but top left on the body.. actually looks like it might be a spiderling, could just be more of those 'hairs', or 'spikes'. 70% sure this is a St Andrews Cross spider, if interested and you didn't know.

Pheasant-1-dpc.jpg
by sajin

Comment:
Nice rich colors. Like the pose and composition/crop. 'Works' fine as is, but perhaps if more of the fore stone/pebble path and the other foot, may have made this better, or just 'another' good, shot, in my opinion. The focus just a fraction sharper too, but difficult. Really like the dof, especially the way the long tail 'fades'.

Wada Basin Fractal
by seebrown

Comment:

Originally posted by seebrown: .... all of those "shots" are computer generated......

Oh, then 'oops' re my comments. A couple of them sure seemed like shots though.

Originally posted by seebrown: ...I think my shot is better than the shot in Scientific American 2002 Thanks for taking interest in fractals ...

Thank you for the information and - yes you might be right about the Scientific American 2002 cover shot.

...they said it would be sunny today!!
by sajin

Comment:

Originally posted by sajin: ok everyone...i know that meeting the challenge with this pic was a bit of a long shot...but...i got a great pic...and i wanted to share it with u

Good capture, as is this portfolio one;

I gave this a 2 - didn't meet the Challenge strongly enough in my opinion. As good a shot as this is, the Challenge 'weight' got priority for me. edit: wording & after reading your comments (in the thread) I can make more of a connection, but alas, the 'comments' are not there whilst we vote. Also, this isn't a 'witch hunt' (although if it is, I say the voters are burned at the stake first, then the photographer, but that's just my opinion). Basically: you submitted a good 'long shot', the voters 'used the scale as they wanted', that's it. It's the 'age old debate' here at DPC, or at least one of them. edit #2 - condensed

Message edited by author 2006-01-06 06:13:09.

Wada Basin Fractal
by seebrown

Comment:

Originally posted by seebrown: Unfortunately the only way to shoot this requires the lens to be in the shot ...

Have to say that after looking at that web page, many of those shots either; the lens cannot be seen or, it has been well hidden. A couple of examples;

Crisp Contrast in the basic pattern

Gorgeously rendered Wada Basin in blues, gray, white, yellow and black

Zoom on area in Wada Fractal above ...

An interesting website. Here is a link for those interested in 'learning': An Introduction to the fascinating patterns of Visual Math

Now if I had seen something like this some of the "Interior Relationships" in the Mandelbrot Set in the Challenge - wow. But for sure it would have been 'doubted' but then 'validated'. No idea how this has been achieved, seems a natural pattern, somehow 'captured'. Different technique, but equally interesting. I'll 'research it later'.

In the end these shots are very 'abstract' (if indeed that's an apt word for this technique), and while may not BE 'digital art', border on being viewed as such, in my opinion. Unless the viewer understands what it is they are looking at they're likely going to assume it is 'created'. I guess as long as it can be seen AS a photograph (difficult), then it should 'make the jump'.

As for your comment in the thread "All in all I can understand now that images like this one do not belong on the DP site" - I don't agree (incorporating the above 'photograph' statement of course). There are many other shots, especially far less 'creative' on DPC, or just different styles/tastes, which perhaps 'do not belong on DPC', but it is a matter of opinion and - ultimately - what has made/makes DPC so unique - the variety. This 'fractal image', while not 'new ground', has a lot of potential in my opinion, plus is educational, which I for one, always like.

DPC is, and will be, 'shaped by contributions'. I think this shot is a good contribution.

Wada Basin Fractal
by seebrown

Comment:
This one is a little better (clarity wise) in my opinion, but you can still see the lens. Looks like a difficult technique/method to nail. edit:typo

Message edited by author 2006-01-04 18:19:41.

Wada Fractal Pattern
by seebrown

Comment:
I gave this a 3. I did not 'think too hard' during voting of what this may have been or how it was achieved but on the quick look (which is usually all you get from most voters), my thoughts leaned toward this being a shot of a kaleidoscope pattern, or similar. I admit that I voted partly on that, that you 'just took a 'straight shot' (versus unique/unusual) of an existing pattern'. It is not until I now see your photographers comments that I see you set this up. That is a moot point anyway as 'we' don't get that inside information. Your title may have counteracted that presumption, had I know what a Wada Fractal Pattern was, or looked it up (which I didn't and didn't). I also cannot recall paying attention to the title in this. My voting was based mostly on the quality; the colors were a little too harsh and the focus was off (looked like it was too close/needed to be a macro). Just a note re now knowing what this is, looks like the camera lens can be seen in the reflection, so had I 'known', I would likely have voted this 'down' for that as well. The concept was good but perhaps a fraction more 'context' (to see these were ornaments) or else just a better focus, would have made this better in my opinion. Finally, just looked at that web page and see that this 'method' does seem to have some good potential, keep trying, you'll hit a winner sooner or later (and yes, I have just learned what a Wada Basin Fractal Pattern is). edit: added 'Basin'

Message edited by author 2006-01-04 18:26:12.

Solstice Shadows
by melismatica

Comment:
Gave this a 3. Perhaps if you had concentrated more on the patterns within the shadows than the shapes, would have made this better in my opinion. Colors are nice, but just a variation in cropping/composition and possibly even angle, may have helped this.

spining lights
by polkop

Comment:
I gave this a 4. There was a pattern there but in my opinion the colors were too harsh (ie: contrast/etc) and the pattern a bit too 'busy', especially for the composition. Also 640 width (height too perhaps) may have helped this, again, with a slightly different composition, depending of course what you had to work with.

I Can Do It!
by TooCool

Comment:
Looks like your patience and 'offerings' paid off. Good capture with a nice clear/clean background. Of course if the chipmunk were a fraction sharper, make this even better, but you know that, plus obviously not an easy thing to do. Looking at all the Chipmunk Story shots, looks like there might be a couple of good sets of triptychs/whateverptychs there.